Gabler
Masterpiece
Or you could fill it in with epoxy.
The 2024 Yamadori/Collecting Thread
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Cajunrider
Imperial Masterpiece
We’ve discussed that before. It won’t work. In that wet environment epoxy won’t stick. Water will get in between quick and the wood will rot if the environment is conducive to rotting.
In the old country we simply fill the split with cement. I might do that.
bonsaiwood
Mame
Tried my hand (and my back) at urban backyard Yamadori.
Dug up this weeping cedar from a friend’s backyard today. Landscape re-do, multiple trees including a weeping cherry up for grabs, but I did not have the energy after this dig..
Easily measured 25ft. Chainsaw cut it down to about 6ft.
15 minutes later… mostly shallow, thin and matted roots with the exception of one thick runner which may have been the original tap root. I did not get pics of the root wrapping phase. It was simply a wet tarp wrapped around the rootball and a second tarp wrapped and tied around the tree. Loading it was a bitch.. Must have weighed around 150 lbs.
Busted out the Sawzall to cut back the thickest root leaving most of the feeders untouched.
I removed about 1ft of trunk and brought the height down to about 5ft. Planted it deep in a 25 gallon nursery can. Added a one inch layer of pea gravel and plain garden soil from my yard with some coarse lava mixed in to help with drainage.
8 inch diameter at the soil line, closer to one foot at the root flare.
I’m not so sure this tree will survive even if kept in shade and well watered/misted daily. But considering my buddy was going to have a tree person cut it down and chipped, I figured I might as well dig it out and see how it responds under my care.
Dug up this weeping cedar from a friend’s backyard today. Landscape re-do, multiple trees including a weeping cherry up for grabs, but I did not have the energy after this dig..
Easily measured 25ft. Chainsaw cut it down to about 6ft.
15 minutes later… mostly shallow, thin and matted roots with the exception of one thick runner which may have been the original tap root. I did not get pics of the root wrapping phase. It was simply a wet tarp wrapped around the rootball and a second tarp wrapped and tied around the tree. Loading it was a bitch.. Must have weighed around 150 lbs.
Busted out the Sawzall to cut back the thickest root leaving most of the feeders untouched.
I removed about 1ft of trunk and brought the height down to about 5ft. Planted it deep in a 25 gallon nursery can. Added a one inch layer of pea gravel and plain garden soil from my yard with some coarse lava mixed in to help with drainage.
8 inch diameter at the soil line, closer to one foot at the root flare.
I’m not so sure this tree will survive even if kept in shade and well watered/misted daily. But considering my buddy was going to have a tree person cut it down and chipped, I figured I might as well dig it out and see how it responds under my care.
circledisk
Mame
Cajunrider
Imperial Masterpiece
bonsaiwood
Mame
@Cajunrider Yep, that was my reaction too..
Any thoughts about an effective cut sealer? Cut paste isn’t sticking very well.
Any thoughts about an effective cut sealer? Cut paste isn’t sticking very well.
circledisk
Mame
I really like a paste called Top Jin M paste. Theres another green paste called kirikuchi naoru that I’ve seen work miracles on field grown trees.
www.kaizenbonsai.com
Kirikuchi-naoru Bonsai Wound/Cut Sealant - Graft Sealing Paste
Kirikuchi-naoru Bonsai Wound/Cut Sealant - Graft Sealing Paste Cut sealing product for bonsai trees Dries waterproof keeping damaging fungi at bay 110ml tube lasts for ages and will not go 'off' or solidify after opening Made in Japan
bonsaiwood
Mame
Great to hear Top Jin has been working for you. I’ll check out the Kirikuchi-naoru brand as well. Cut sealers have been hit or miss for me. TBH, I don’t have much faith in them, they tend to be finicky to work with, but I realize there are benefits in certain applications.
Cajunrider
Imperial Masterpiece
circledisk
Mame
Not sure if someone posted this thread already but it’s a good rundown of the different kinds
Liquid cut paste vs putty cut paste
Forgive me if there is a thread on this subject, but I could not find one. I'm curious about people's thoughts on the differences between the two main types of cut paste I've seen used; the liquidy one (like Kiyonal) that comes in a paint tube, and the putty like one that comes in the tin with...
Goodbrake
Yamadori
Getting some good news growth and extension on the collected cedar elm.
The Barber
Chumono
My big oak finally started pushing! Buds starting to show up higher on the old bark as well now.
Cajunrider
Imperial Masterpiece
Cajunrider
Imperial Masterpiece
For my big BCs and Mayhaw I just use the cheap spray on prune sealant sold at the big box stores.
bonsaiwood
Mame
Useful! Thanks
Cajunrider
Imperial Masterpiece
Collection fail.
I tried to collect a live oak yesterday and failed miserably. The oak was only about 3" in diameter. I dug around the tree and used my recip saw to cut in on an angle. Then I l hook up my truck to the tree and was trying to do my usual trick of doing a slight pull to get at the tap root and get the tree out.
The trunk snapped very close to the base. I am pretty much force to leave the tree alone and let it regrow. Next year I will have to do a hard dig to get at it. It isn't going to be quick anymore.
I tried to collect a live oak yesterday and failed miserably. The oak was only about 3" in diameter. I dug around the tree and used my recip saw to cut in on an angle. Then I l hook up my truck to the tree and was trying to do my usual trick of doing a slight pull to get at the tap root and get the tree out.
The trunk snapped very close to the base. I am pretty much force to leave the tree alone and let it regrow. Next year I will have to do a hard dig to get at it. It isn't going to be quick anymore.
The Barber
Chumono
Just got a message from a customer of mine that does Landscaping, asked if I wanted these Taxus.
Goodbrake
Yamadori
Cedar elm growth flush number 2 is coming out.
The high country is finally starting to thaw out, and this small white spruce caught my eye yesterday while poking around near the snow line. Came right out of the freshly saturated soil with quick tug, and with virtually all its roots. Nice natural movement. Haven’t touched it other than sticking it in a training box. Should be a lot of fun to style in a few years.
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