I'm just thinking through the math here, that's all. Same width at the base, but smaller diameter at the cut, the smaller top would have more taper. Like a square toe boot compared to a wide square toe.
Yes the ones in water have more taper without a doubt in my mind.
Collected 3 weeks ago, already budded up high when collected. 2 out 2 have budded below the chops and are doing well.
Seeing as how you are having success with late collections I am inspired to try to collect one this summer on the way back from the beach.
No guarantee yet. The buds could be from residual energy in the trunks. I will wait to see roots, lots of roots, before declaring success.
So far 7/7 have budded. The ones collected 3 1/2 weeks ago are showing root development. The fact that a sick and severely stressed BC that I collected in August last year is now thriving again makes me feel that BCs can be collected all the way through Spring without issue so long as we take good care of it after collection. By good care I mean keeping the tree and roots moist and never dried out plus avoid full sun that can stress the tree further. Other than that BC is a tough tree, collect it whenever you have a chance in the spring.
That is good to know!
I think a Shohin is too tough but a Kifu is within the realm of possibility although it might be really tough still.
I might have better luck looking for one in the swamp with buttress, chop it super low and develop one like the big tree in Illinois.
The smaller the BC, the less buttressing it will have at the roots. Buttress is dependent on strong root growth. The more room roots have to run with BC, the more buttressing they develop. They do very little buttress development in pots. That is why you collect trees with already established buttressed roots.
I can find tree with buttressed roots. How do I drastically reduce the trunk? Can a 8+" cut be healed ? I am seriously considering a stepwise chop where I chop at 12" and allow the tree to bud everywhere and form lots of branches. Then I will make subsequent partial cuts at the height I want. The tree will then have enough top foliage to support the healing. Your thought @rockm ?
An 8 inch cut can be healed in time, containerizing the tree will slow that healing. Ground planting for a couple of years after initial collection should do it.
Oh boy. Shohin sumo BC here I come. I am going to the swamp in the next month or so to find one with good buttresses and chop it at 5". It will top out at 10" which is barely considered shohin but
I'd be pretty cautious about doing this now. It's pretty far past prime collection season down there. Collecting in active growth is not really a good way to get a BC out alive. Also, Chopping a tree and leaving in place --not digging it up--will probably kill it.Oh boy. Shohin sumo BC here I come. I am going to the swamp in the next month or so to find one with good buttresses and chop it at 5". It will top out at 10" which is barely considered shohin but
My time in Louisiana is limited and my friend has lots of trees in his shallow ponds that he doesn't mind thinning them out to allow crawfish production. Given that some of the trees will be eliminated whether I collect or not, I might gander a try or two.
A tree with a 20' nebari will require roughly a bathtub sized pot
If I own a tree like that, I will buy the pot! I think I will need a cattle feeder tub or a big cement mixing tub (36" L x 24" W x 8" D) when I collect that tree.Nice, but remember you're gonna have to buy pots for them at some point down the road...
