Prunus Mume

@Brian Van Fleet , could you please check if this Ume schedule below is alright?
And a question, do I need to defoliate it in the summer?
Thanks in advance.

Winter:

DECEMBER
- Prune lightly to a good shape for the flowers.
- Carefully wire it if needed.

JANUARY
- Enjoy the flowering show.
- After flowering finishes, cut back hard to 2/3 nodes.
- Structural pruning if needed
- Repotting if needed.

FEBRUARY
- Let it grow


Spring

MARCH
- Feed and water well.
- Let it grow

APRIL
-Cut the first two leaves closest to the trunk
- Let it grow

MAY
- Prune to 2-3 nodes and wire.
- Let it grow

Summer

JUNE
- Let it grow

JULY
- Dormancy
- Take off the wire

AUGUST
- Dormancy
- Curly leaves

Autumn

SEPTEMBER
- Let it grow

OCTOBER
- Stops growing

NOVEMBER
- Leaves fall
Thank you for your post greatly appreciated. Are you saying that January is the best time to make serious shaping and wiring as I would think the tree would be at it weakest and most brittle. Still learning so sorry if my questions sound stupid. Just making sure

Michael
 
Thank you for your post greatly appreciated. Are you saying that January is the best time to make serious shaping and wiring as I would think the tree would be at it weakest and most brittle. Still learning so sorry if my questions sound stupid. Just making sure

Michael
Well, I have pruned hard after the flowers fell mid winter this year, repotted and the Prunus is growing like never in mid spring. So I guess the answer is yes.
 
Thank you for your post greatly appreciated. Are you saying that January is the best time to make serious shaping and wiring as I would think the tree would be at it weakest and most brittle. Still learning so sorry if my questions sound stupid. Just making sure
Important to take into account global variations. As far south as Brian is, he gets hardly any winter. Same for Clicio. Best to learn the growing phases of the trees, and not "just" go by calender dates.
 
Important to take into account global variations. As far south as Brian is, he gets hardly any winter. Same for Clicio. Best to learn the growing phases of the trees, and not "just" go by calender dates.
Oh ok I never looked at it that way and i am glad i asked. I live in New York and January is probably the coldest month of thet year. I guess i need to figure this out as from what I gather after flowering is when the calendar starts the clock. Based on what I have read but I could be wrong.
Michael
 
@Brian Van Fleet , could you please check if this Ume schedule below is alright?
And a question, do I need to defoliate it in the summer? I do not fully defoliate.
Thanks in advance.

Winter:

DECEMBER
- Prune lightly to a good shape for the flowers.
- Carefully wire it if needed. Don’t wire if there is a chance you will knock off flower or leaf buds, they’re easily dislodged at this stage.

JANUARY
- Enjoy the flowering show.
- After flowering finishes, cut back hard to 2/3 nodes. Careful here too, because many proximal buds are not viable. Don’t cut back past good buds. Good buds will be a richer brighter brown color when wet. Dead buds are dull and almost purple brown.
- Structural pruning if needed
- Repotting if needed. Repot every spring, changing soil, and minimally pruning roots, as the buds are moving. Ume is one of the later trees to leaf out.

FEBRUARY
- Let it grow. It’s not growing yet.


Spring

MARCH
- Feed and water well. Repot
- Let it grow

APRIL
-Cut the first two leaves closest to the trunk
- Let it grow.
Wire green shoots
MAY
- Prune to 2-3 nodes and wire.
- Let it grow, don’t prune back anything that grows from now until leaf-drop

Summer

JUNE
- Let it grow

JULY
- Dormancy
- Take off the wire if biting in.

AUGUST
- Dormancy
- Curly leaves
remove wire
Autumn

SEPTEMBER
- Let it grow
It’s not growing
OCTOBER
- Stops growing

NOVEMBER
- Leaves fall
Edits in red above. Feel free to modify and repost.
 
Oh ok I never looked at it that way and i am glad i asked. I live in New York and January is probably the coldest month of thet year. I guess i need to figure this out as from what I gather after flowering is when the calendar starts the clock. Based on what I have read but I could be wrong.
Michael
My Ume blooms around New Year’s Day pretty reliably. However, after it blooms, it remains dormant for the next 3+ months. I would not work on (hard prune/wire) an Ume in the dead of a New York winter. I fully wired mine last winter, and it did not like it.

I would recommend heavy pruning as leaves are opening, and wiring green shoots in April-May as they’re extending. They’re less likely to break when they’re still green.
 
Edits in red above. Feel free to modify and repost.
I am thinking maybe it's worth posting the schedule (your posting of course) as a resource also. Maybe it can help more people, I guess.

Anyway, will repost it here in this thread.
 
@Brian Van Fleet kindly revised the Prunus Mume schedule above; this is a corrected update:

Winter:

DECEMBER
- Prune lightly to a good shape for the flowers.
- Carefully wire it if needed. Don’t wire if there is a chance you will knock off flower or leaf buds, they’re easily dislodged at this stage.

JANUARY
- Enjoy the flowering show.
- After flowering finishes, cut back hard to 2/3 nodes. Careful here too, because many proximal buds are not viable. Don’t cut back past good buds. Good buds will be a richer brighter brown color when wet. Dead buds are dull and almost purple brown.
- Structural pruning if needed.

FEBRUARY
- It’s not growing yet.


Spring

MARCH
- Repot every spring, changing soil, and minimally pruning roots, as the buds are moving. Ume is one of the later trees to leaf out.
- Feed and water well.
- Let it grow.

APRIL
-Cut the first two leaves closest to the trunk.
- Wire green shoots.
- Let it grow.

MAY
- Prune to 2-3 nodes and wire.
- Let it grow, don’t prune back anything that grows from now until leaf-drop.


Summer

JUNE
- Let it grow.

JULY
- Dormancy.
- Take off the wire if biting in.
- Do not fully defoliate.

AUGUST
- Dormancy.
- Curly leaves.
- Remove wire.


Autumn

SEPTEMBER
- It’s not growing yet.

OCTOBER
- Some growing.

NOVEMBER
- Leaves fall.
 
@Brian Van Fleet kindly revised the Prunus Mume schedule above; this is a corrected update:

Winter:

DECEMBER
- Prune lightly to a good shape for the flowers.
- Carefully wire it if needed. Don’t wire if there is a chance you will knock off flower or leaf buds, they’re easily dislodged at this stage.

JANUARY
- Enjoy the flowering show.
- After flowering finishes, cut back hard to 2/3 nodes. Careful here too, because many proximal buds are not viable. Don’t cut back past good buds. Good buds will be a richer brighter brown color when wet. Dead buds are dull and almost purple brown.
- Structural pruning if needed.

FEBRUARY
- It’s not growing yet.


Spring

MARCH
- Repot every spring, changing soil, and minimally pruning roots, as the buds are moving. Ume is one of the later trees to leaf out.
- Feed and water well.
- Let it grow.

APRIL
-Cut the first two leaves closest to the trunk.
- Wire green shoots.
- Let it grow.

MAY
- Prune to 2-3 nodes and wire.
- Let it grow, don’t prune back anything that grows from now until leaf-drop.


Summer

JUNE
- Let it grow.

JULY
- Dormancy.
- Take off the wire if biting in.
- Do not fully defoliate.

AUGUST
- Dormancy.
- Curly leaves.
- Remove wire.


Autumn

SEPTEMBER
- It’s not growing yet.

OCTOBER
- Some growing.

NOVEMBER
- Leaves fall.
Seeing this going to be used as reference material can you think about adding a few more items? But I think this is awesome but can you also add when feeding should be done as there are many different techniques from what I understand. As an example is there feeding/ fertilizers added? And what months? Also when repotting is done i have read a lot of people say they use akadami as there primary soil choice for this type of tree. Lastly a notation should be placed somewhere that says depending on climate zone as i just found out. Than there is also soil feeding vs direct leaf spraying. So much to learn and I can't thank everyone for such an amazing thread.

Michael
 
As an example is there feeding/ fertilizers added? And what months? Also when repotting is done i have read a lot of people say they use Akadama...
Michael, I can not answer for @Brian Van Fleet , but I remember there is a link about feeding in this very thread.
However I can tell you what I've been using: Organic pellets (BioGold and Hanagokoro) during the growing season, Fish Emulsion every fortnight, and 0:10:10 by fall.
I cut fertilizing during the summer dormancy and when the flower buds are ready to open.
 
Michael, I can not answer for @Brian Van Fleet , but I remember there is a link about feeding in this very thread.
However I can tell you what I've been using: Organic pellets (BioGold and Hanagokoro) during the growing season, Fish Emulsion every fortnight, and 0:10:10 by fall.
I cut fertilizing during the summer dormancy and when the flower
This great information and should be included to the reference material. I have been following the information in Peter Adam's book to the letter and it looks like it's working. But you have given me something a little different that sounds really good. I had another member here tell me they use kelp but he mostly does leaf spraying.

Michael

Here is what it says in Peter's book and my notes lol20201025_154714.jpg
 
Note: If they snap and are still attached leave in pace add some cut-paste. I find Mume is very forgiving for these breaks and will keep the branch.
Absolutely true. In fact, on a gnarly trunked ume these more severe bends add character and are quite suiting to a rugged ume. This technique works so long as you don't break the same branch in multiple places at the same time. And the branch must be green, I have not tried it with a hardened branch.

Wood glue helps to keep the break from moving and rebreaking

Edits in red above. Feel free to modify and repost.
Say I have several large ume in the grow bed this year. Come spring, I want to chop them (some have 6'+ leaders) and pull them out of the ground. Is this feasible, or does the work need to be split? As in, chopped this spring and dug up the following? This should be done after flowering, as buds are breaking, correct?
 
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Brian - this is one of my favorite threads. Enjoyed seeing this tree progress - and it's striking.

I picked up a chunky mume a few months back that's still quite raw. The knowledge is appreciated.
 
Awesome looking Ume Brian! This is the next tree I want to add to my garden. Any recommendations for a source to purchase quality Ume?
Thanks, they’re a bit tough to find. Evergreen Gardenworks has them at times. You might also try here:
 
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