My Shohin Collection ....

I didn't no there was no more importing into the US; that's good to know. I realized you used the word "smuggled" but I was referring to legal importing which I now know can't happen. Thanks for the info.
 
Vin said:
I didn't no there was no more importing into the US; that's good to know. I realized you used the word "smuggled" but I was referring to legal importing which I now know can't happen. Thanks for the info.
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I think the only legal importing is for research only.

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/600/~/importing-plants-and-plant-products

"
Propagative Plant Material (Plants/Plant Parts for Planting)

Many plants may enter the United States from foreign countries, provided they meet certain entry requirements. Entry requirements vary by plant, but the following requirements universally apply:

· If you bring back 12 or fewer articles of admissible plants that have no special restrictions, you do not need a permit. Special restrictions may include requirements such as a permit, post-entry quarantine, treatment, or ESA or CITES documentation.

· Plants must be accompanied by a phytosanitary certificate from the country of origin showing that the plants meet entry requirements for the United States.

· Plants should be bare rooted (no growing media attached to the roots).

· You should perform a basic visual inspection of plants. Look for insects or sickly looking plant parts.

· Wrap plants in damp newspaper or similar material to prevent them from drying out. Roots may be secured in a plastic bag.

Twelve or fewer plants are inspected by CBP at the first port of entry. Thirteen or more plants will be inspected by APHIS personnel at the nearest Plant Inspection Station. If the inspector finds plant pests that could cause harm to other plants, or if the plants do not meet entry requirements, they will be refused entry. This means you must forfeit the plants, which will either be destroyed or returned to the country of origin.

Travelers are advised to consult with their nearest APHIS PPQ Plant Inspection Station to determine the admissibility of propagative plant material (including live plants, bulbs, corms, cuttings, root crowns, seeds, etc.)."
 
carp said:
There is no legal importing into the US anymore. That's why I used the word smuggled.
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There indeed is legal importation, just very strict rules. Plant must come in bare rooted, and then sit in quarantine for several years. That is why when you find legally imported trees, they are very expensive.
 
That shohin Ficus on the second page made me weep tears of joy. Such a gorgeous base...
 
JudyB said:
There indeed is legal importation, just very strict rules. Plant must come in bare rooted, and then sit in quarantine for several years. That is why when you find legally imported trees, they are very expensive.
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"The Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) regulates the importation of plants for planting under the authority of the Plant Protection Act. The regulations in 7 CFR part 319 prohibit or restrict the importation into the United States of certain plants and plant products to prevent the introduction of plant pests into the United States. The regulations contained in "Subpart–Nursery Stock, Plants, Roots, Bulbs, Seeds, and Other Plant Products" (§ 319.37) prohibit or restrict the importation of living plants, plant parts, and seeds for propagation."

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/wps/port..._plant_products/sa_plants_for_planting/ct_q37

(q) Any artificially dwarfed plant imported into the United States, except for plants that are less than 2 years old, must have been grown and handled in accordance with the requirements of this paragraph and must be accompanied by a phytosanitary certificate of inspection that was issued by the government of the country where the plants were grown.

(1) Any growing media, including soil, must be removed from the artificially dwarfed plants prior to shipment to the United States unless the plants are to be imported in accordance with §319.37-8.

(2) The artificially dwarfed plants must be grown in accordance with the following requirements and the phytosanitary certificate required by this paragraph must contain declarations that those requirements have been met:

(i) The artificially dwarfed plants must be grown for at least 2 years in a greenhouse or screenhouse in a nursery registered with the government of the country where the plants were grown;

(ii) The greenhouse or screenhouse in which the artificially dwarfed plants are grown must have screening with openings of not more than 1.6 mm on all vents and openings, and all entryways must be equipped with automatic closing doors;

(iii) The artificially dwarfed plants must be grown in pots containing only sterile growing media during the 2-year period when they are grown in a greenhouse or screenhouse in a registered nursery;

(iv) The artificially dwarfed plants must be grown on benches at least 50 cm above the ground during the 2-year period when they are grown in a greenhouse or screenhouse in a registered nursery; and

(v) The plants and the greenhouse or screenhouse and nursery where they are grown must be inspected for any evidence of pests and found free of pests of quarantine significance to the United States at least once every 12 months by the plant protection service of the country where the plants are grown.

http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-id...b3cbb&node=7:5.1.1.1.6&rgn=div5#sp7.5.319.xx9

Anyone who buys bonsai at auction is smuggling trees illegally. The requirements to bring bonsai into the US are nearly impossible to meet by individual bonsai growers and nurseries. Automatic doors on greenhouses built to specific standards? Ya right. Thats why the mass produced trees are the only legal imports.
 
What a sad way to tarnish Maria's thread of beautiful shohin!! Seriously!?!

I'm not sure what your grounds are for accusations like this... But no matter how justified you think you are, this doesn't seem like the place to address it.
 
@ Carp ... Its really sad when you go out of way to tarnish my shohin collection.... Just plain jealousy on your grounds in accusing anybody that buys trees at auction is smuggling trees illegally... I remember you texting me looking for Goji Berry "Hi, my name is Seth. I live out in Florida and have been on the hunt for Goji Berry bonsai. The Goji you have posted here is rather impressive and I'm curious if you would consider selling, and if so, for what price?" To be honest, I don't think you can afford it.... Seriously!!!

Here's one for you : IMG_2504a.JPG
 
Edit- Bahh screw all this shipping stuff. It is perfectly legal to import trees if done the right way.

Maria, you have some of the best Shohin I have seen anywhere. Please post as many images as you are able to show us!

Thanks!
 
I honestly would be so proud to own a small fraction of your shohin collection.


Most impressive! I love it!
 
These trees got my attention..very well done.. Never seen a collection like this before. You keep posting pics I will sit and enjoy. :)
 
maria kapra said:
@ Carp ... Its really sad when you go out of way to tarnish my shohin collection.... Just plain jealousy on your grounds in accusing anybody that buys trees at auction is smuggling trees illegally... I remember you texting me looking for Goji Berry "Hi, my name is Seth. I live out in Florida and have been on the hunt for Goji Berry bonsai. The Goji you have posted here is rather impressive and I'm curious if you would consider selling, and if so, for what price?" To be honest, I don't think you can afford it.... Seriously!!!

Here's one for you : View attachment 87006
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You misinterpreted the comment; not directed at your collection in any way. If i wasn't impressed with your trees I would not have sent the PM to inquire. If I could not afford, I would not ask. I see the prices those trees sell for; between $350-$600 is average online.

Trees bought in a foreign auction and shipped to the US is smuggling. I see that the comment comment I left is missing that important word, "forgeign". The edit/delete functions seem to be missing from this forum now. I reported the comment yesterday so that it could be removed by an administrator, but I guess it has not happened and I am unable to do so myself. Of course bonsai bought in a domestic market is not illegal.

I want to have the comment removed because, like Dan W. said, it's ruining this thread. I've talked with Scott, about my comment, he said he buys his trees from nursery growers here in FL and where they originate from is not part of his business. In that situation his sales are legit.

The way my original statement was made, it looks as if I was insinuating the he was doing illegal business. If an admin could remove my comments here, it would be beneficial to maintain the integrity and purpose of this thread. Sorry for creating quite a bit of a stir and especially to you Maria for causing much offense.
 
Awesome collection. Appreciate your time and effort for showing your trees. Please when you have some time, show us some of your techniques/ projects.
 
I agree i would like to know some of your techniques as well.

Rick
 
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