Lil Juniper #2

Ok now I have to jump in.....lol
@RickMartin

No offense to Tentakelaertje, but I disagree. Why does everyone want to make a cascade out of every juniper it seems...lol.

The left tree is a natural informal upright, leave it that way!

The right trunk is too straight for the composition.

The two trees clash and should be separated into two individual trees.
That was my first option. I believe it was Oso that explained how to do it. I did check the right trunk and its still playable to crank some twists into it. This could eliminate 2 negative. 1) the straight trunk and 2) shorten the trunk down to where both trunks don't look equal.

Rick
 

That looks like the training pots I use and if so you can drill a hole in the lip at various spots and use tethers. This small Mugo was totally upright and although not in a trainer yet here are a couple of pictures to show you what I mean. You can also tether on opposite sides, between branches, etc... The reason I am posting this is to get your gears spinning - younger stock like I have pictured takes some pretty damn severe bending this way ;)

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Grimmy
 
Gears are a spinning. Thanks for the post Grim.
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Rick
 
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Rick -I can say that I stop and look a every post you start. I think after reading your post on the mugo train you seem like a good guy so I always look. I don't offer any advice because I'm a very new guy at this. Your steps ahead of me and I respect that.
 
Rick -I can say that I stop and look a every post you start. I think after reading your post on the mugo train you seem like a good guy so I always look. I don't offer any advice because I'm a very new guy at this. Your steps ahead of me and I respect that.
Thanks Rusty
I am no where I would like to be at this stage. I think the biggest problem I have is I have to many varieties of trees and I'm trying to absorb information on each in my head and its just not working well, so I think I will back off and work on just a few species. Thanks for commenting.

Rick
 
I know EXACTLY how you feel. I had a work trip down to San Antonio this spring I came back from that trip with 3 crape myrtles and then picked up 4 azaleas while driving through Missouri. A week after I was back I drove to Arkansas to collect a Bald cypress. Those where my first trees to play with and then I started getting crazy about getting trees lol. I think the spot was Rainbow gardens down there. So much better than the nursery's around me!
 
Thanks Rusty
I am no where I would like to be at this stage. I think the biggest problem I have is I have to many varieties of trees and I'm trying to absorb information on each in my head and its just not working well, so I think I will back off and work on just a few species. Thanks for commenting.

Rick

Your profile says you've been here for about 2 years so I assume you've been learning bonsai for about the same time.

2 years is nothing in this hobby. I am at 5 years and I am still very much a newbie.
There are people that do bonsai for a lifetime and still say they have more to learn. This is one of the wonderful things about bonsai.

The fact that you feel overwhelmed is not uncommon. Many of us did at the beginning. I can remember feeling the same way. There are so many different species to learn and some are very different and some are similar, but it's very confusing.

I think that keeping yourself to a few species at a time is a good idea. Get comfortable with them then expand your horizion to new species.
 
Thanks Rusty
I am no where I would like to be at this stage. I think the biggest problem I have is I have to many varieties of trees and I'm trying to absorb information on each in my head and its just not working well, so I think I will back off and work on just a few species. Thanks for commenting.

Rick

i have the same thing going on with allot off different species i suck the info up like a sponge unlike my days at school tough lol

i do write things down in a notebook the important things from each species and read it before i get a tree in front of me to refresh my memory kinda helps!
 
I write things down to, but then forget where I put it..lol

Rick
 
I know EXACTLY how you feel. I had a work trip down to San Antonio this spring I came back from that trip with 3 crape myrtles and then picked up 4 azaleas while driving through Missouri. A week after I was back I drove to Arkansas to collect a Bald cypress. Those where my first trees to play with and then I started getting crazy about getting trees lol. I think the spot was Rainbow gardens down there. So much better than the nursery's around me!
Rainbow Gardens is an excellent nursery 1+ inch JBP's $10.99 all day everyday.

Rick
get your shit together and get organized lol problem solved haha
ikr..been trying that I am getting better at it.

Rick
 
Maybe I will get the call to go down again. I'd like to spend more time checking them out. Maybe swing by for a beer and tree talk. Thinking on you post I'm going to try to post more but with a warning that I'm a new guy -just to compare responses from the more experienced. It might help me grow as well
 
Whoever said, "Thou Shalt Not Kill", never tried bonsai!

Get in there are kill a few of the ones you like the most. Then when you're done with the a$$-kicking contest with yourself, take the lessons you learned and apply them to more of the same trees. The only thing this board does is it "can" if you read and do research enough, prevent you from a lifetime of killing trees needlessly.

Personally, I don't subscribe to people asking what to do with their trees... how are you going to find your own style if you always lean on this crutch?

But, I also understand why people like to have others post pics of their projects, because commenting on other people's work provides an opportunity to teach... and as the old saying goes, "if you want to learn something really well, teach it to someone else."

In bonsai, every man has the capability of being a murderer... just try not to turn into a serial killer. :)

(Oh hey!... we could have cards made up for all the people on the board... like hockey cards, could show your stats... "Never killed", frequent offender", "serial killer", "probationary conscript", " regularly risks life and limb", etc. etc. etc.)... mine would have my plea to the court, "it was gonna die anyway; honest it was!"
 
Actually didn't swap it out. We had a gift exchange at our club last Thursday and it went as a gift. Then I bought the one pictured the same night. Also was given a live oak at the meeting
 
Very nice, I need to find something with some size!
 
So how is one suppose to learn then. Reading on it isn't going to cut it with so much contradictory out there. I don't post my trees because I think they are a masterpiece, I post them so others can tell me their weakness and their strengths. I have some pretty tough skin, but when I post and get nothing, I feel like I have wasted my time, and I've wasted enough of my life already, I'm done with that. This forum I assume was made to help people.if we don't do that why even have it. Thanks for your time everyone.

Rick
Bonsai is best learned in person. You need feedback from someone near you who can see the tree in three dimensions. Also it's just an immature tree that needs time to develop. There's not a lot of things you can do right now. Any radical thing done can't really be explained or executed online.

Find a club or people near you engaged in bonsai.
 
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