How to deal with dry rootballs in nursery pots?

[just.wing.it]

I don't know......that whole moon thing looks like a hoax.....

HAHAHA!

 

[Warpig]

I don't know......that whole moon thing looks like a hoax.....

Yea seen that coming. Lol

 

[WNC Bonsai]

Ok Follower of Adair and the shallow thought community.

I'd listen to Bill V over Peter Chan (poster boy for the "doing year 1 bonsai for forty years" campaign) any day, but I doubt he'd use the technique 20 years later.

Even if he recommended it too, it would still be stupid.

With a thousand less damaging ways to accomplish the same thing.........

I guess this is just a lames way of living on the edge!

Keep at it!

Sorce

I know nothing of Adair’s methods so don’t try to lump me into your argument with him. You’re starting to sound like Smoke! I guess it’s now the Source way or the highway.

 

[sorce]

know nothing of Adair’s methods

Apologies.

You may be the only one NOT riding that train.

Truth truth.

I have never recommended my way.
That would be foolish.

Sorce

 

[Saddler]

Apologies.

You may be the only one NOT riding that train.

Truth truth.

I have never recommended my way.
That would be foolish.

Sorce

Makes sense you would call it foolish...

Search results for query: Recommend

www.bonsainut.com

 

[sorce]

Makes sense you would call it foolish...

Search results for query: Recommend

www.bonsainut.com

Those are other people's ways I recommend.

Mine come with caveats.

Read them.

Sorce

 

[sorce]

I’ll go with Peter Chan’s advice over yours any day

Out of genuine curiosity, what advice of mine were you speaking about here?

Sorce

 

[Hartinez]

I think people are way to obsessed with repotting. Thw trees are obviously growin in whatever muck there is in. Let them be. Clean out in spring. It will be ok as long as they do not sit in hot sun or pouring rain for days on end.

Agreed @leatherback . If the tree is growing and appears healthy, leave it be till spring and handle the roots then. These trees sit root bound and on the ground all winter at nurseries around here, and perk right back up every spring. I’ve never lost a tree from leaving the nursery rootball intact, but I’ve lost multiple trees by messing with a nursery rootball at the wrong time too hard.

 

[Mike Corazzi]

I love it how yall dodge when shit gets real.

What cloth?

What bit?

What speed works best?

Answer if you know.

Sorce

This bit


This tool



Speed, variable.

 

[cheap_walmart_art]

Damn, another thread explosion. Ah well, I took @0soyoung 's advice and used a metal chopstick to push aeration holes into the middle of the rootballs and scraped off and replaced the top 1/2 inch of media. I'll repot as buds swell in Spring.

 

[Hartinez]

Damn, another thread explosion. Ah well, I took @0soyoung 's advice and used a metal chopstick to push aeration holes into the middle of the rootballs and scraped off and replaced the top 1/2 inch of media. I'll repot as buds swell in Spring.

Good plan. If I get nursery trees out of season this about all I ever do to them myself till spring.

And hijacked or not, don’t stop making threads! I feel like they always come back to the trees!!

 

[Saddler]

Those are other people's ways I recommend.

Mine come with caveats.

Read them.

Sorce

LMAO. first random one I clicked. You just talk about how you do it and tell the op where to look for more ways YOU do it.

Can we get some pics of the tree?

Asking so we can cure this...



1-2 weeks in the shade won't really do much except set the tree back 1-2 weeks worth of shade.

You could search me talking about BIP (bring in pruning) and BOP (bring out pruning) with pics and stuff elsewhere if you need....but the nutshell is this......

Indoor leaves are indoor leaves.
Outdoor leaves are outdoor leaves.
Each not built for the others position.

So I strip them off, defoliate, when they get moved, which is ONCE in spring, and once in fall. When night temp is above or below 50.
This is 2 pruning moves a year, which can be enough, but certainly not too much.

I recommend this practice because it takes longer (2weeksshade) for a tree to lose it's other leaves and regrow leaves appropriate for it's new setting.

A tree knows what to do when it loses its leaves due to an animal, storm,etc. It grows them back. This is what BIP and BOP simulates.

Trees don't regularly move positions outside (and certainly never move to inside) so they get confused, this state is lengthy and unproductive, until leaves yellow and fall off, (what you are experiencing) Then they regrow leaves fit for their new position.

BIP and BOP just sees the inevitable and works with it to our favor.

We are squeezing as many days of productive energy gathering in as we can.

Sorce
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[Warpig]

You just talk about how you do it and tell the op where to look for more ways YOU do it.

And you say how you do it and show places you learned. I think the point @sorce is making is, it is up to the reader to seek out what works best for them to a degree and to know why something is done not just that it should be done.

 

[sorce]

Besides I haven't had a dropped leaf or indoor mites since this practice.

Next.

It's gotta be bad advice.

Sorce

 

[coh]

Sorce, are you sure you're not a reincarnation of Dario (Poink88)? You're sounding more and more like him all the time. Same attitude, same posting frequency.

 

[sorce]

Sorce, are you sure you're not a reincarnation of Dario (Poink88)? You're sounding more and more like him all the time. Same attitude, same posting frequency.

No. Haha. Lol..? With which to begin?

But I understand where he comes from.

Innovate or stagnate!

It is when Boon decided to Innovate (hbr) that we stopped stagnating.

Then all innovation must cease according to Adair.

It's fucking ridiculous.

These small balled girly men just get upset because they pay so much for a teacher.

When you can get the same results for free.

(Please note this isn't me saying I HAVE similar results, so don't start that headinass argument)

Reading is the only requirement to avoid fighting with me.

Prove me wrong.

No one can prove these accusations.

I'm supposed to let these simple non-readers talk shit that ain't real?

Crickets when the fan gets hit.

Sorce

 

[sorce]

While this tree won't be in great proportion ever, it is evidence that BIP and BOP works.

People defoliate tropicals still.
And likely overprune them.

On top of that, moving them in and out brings leaf drop and wear.

I just combined a couple of those instances for healthier results.



Innovation.

Sorce

 

[cheap_walmart_art]

 

[sorce]

Targetting the Shallow.

You see...

This is another one of those things that doesn't even need proof.

Less leafless time is better. We know this.

So what is the argument?

BIP and BOP offers less leafless time and more tree health.

Ignorant people will argue this.

Even if HPS or other bulbs don't create "indoor" leaves, pruning at this time creates a wash then. Neutral. Regularly no gain or loss.

So any arguments against it are only from butthurt shallows.

Sacred of a broke, "uneducated", yardbird tending hippy.

Stagnating.

Sorce