HorseloverFat’s 2020-2120 NON-ideal NONtest entries.

[HorseloverFat]

Look for Service Berry, or Saskatoons, genus Amelanchier.

Quick inquiry.

I have been more actively seeking the Saskatoons out now (as well as utilizing the search feature more often ) thank you for this.

My question regarding the Amanchalier is: When I was observing one such specimen today (which was almost completely uprooted by high floodwaters), i got a very in-depth “peek” at the root system... and this specie has a structure which leads me to believe they will develop from root cuttings, as well... this would ALSO mean they are less “particular” about collection timing.. but fairly “particular” about aftercare... am I KIND of on the right mental “track” here?



Thank You

 

[HorseloverFat]

NativeGrape Woodbine - what is that? Got a scientific name, as the common name is confusing.

Crap! I forgot to “touch” on this.. hehe..

It’s false V.creeper - Parthenocissus inserta

Hehe... NOT a good candidate.. just thought you’d appreciate the info.

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

Actually

Crap! I forgot to “touch” on this.. hehe..

It’s false V.creeper - Parthenocissus inserta

Hehe... NOT a good candidate.. just thought you’d appreciate the info.

Actually, as discussed in Darlene's thread (Cadillactaste) all the Parthenocissus are excellent as bonsai. Usually used more as an accent plant to set season, because of their wonderful autumn color. But if you are lucky to get a P. inserta with a reasonable trunk diameter, say 2 inches, then they make good bonsai trees in their own right. Cascade styles are most often used. Wonderful fall color accent.

 

[HorseloverFat]

QuickMy question regarding the Amanchalier is: When I was observing one such specimen today (which was almost completely uprooted by high floodwaters), i got a very in-depth “peek” at the root system... and this specie has a structure which leads me to believe they will develop from root cuttings, as well... this would ALSO mean they are less “particular” about collection timing.. but fairly “particular” about aftercare... am I KIND of on the right mental “track” here?

I got it figured out.

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

I found Amelanchier easy as far as aftercare is concerned. You should have no trouble with them. Standard crab apple care will do. The most difficult part is finding a trunk 2 or more inches in diameter. They are slow to develop trunk caliper. Look at 6 foot tall Amelanchier to find your 2 inch diameter trunk.

Collected late winter, they do not need a lot of fine roots.

 

[HorseloverFat]

Collected late winter, they do not need a lot of fine roots.

Yeeeeah.. about that..
Although I do still have the previously hunted specimens available for late winter collection, the tree that I mentioned (the one uprooted from the floodwaters) was starting to look dry and sad when I saw it today.. so I attempted a rescue... no real expectations. It’s fate didn’t look too good EITHER way, so I thought I’d try.

I will take pictures upon returning home.

 

[DBPooper]

Awesome! Great enthusiasm.

And great information provided

 

[HorseloverFat]

Sorry for the poor lighting and quality of the pictures.. just posting them HERE for information’s sake.

I will start a new thread tomorrow, detailing this specimen, as well as the large root cuttings.

 

[HorseloverFat]

Adding this woody character (previously pictured in another thread), as Sambucus was a large part of the initial, “Most difficult tree to bonsai” discussion that followed that inquiry put forth a while back.

This was a “floodwater rescue” tree, as receding high floodwaters had uprooted and doomed this particular plant.

So here she blows, may survive... perhaps not.

Sambucus Racemosa 1

 

[HorseloverFat]

(((Update)))

1.
Upon examining my Guelder-Rose and Cottonwood specimens.. and realizing that I had stumbled upon much more adventitious “versions” recently, I decided to return those two to nature..(but WILL be replacing with at LEAST the “primo” Guelder-Rose that I’ve located, come autumn)

2.
Upon meditating on the other “entries” which were collected early on, I began making decisions about which would “get some work done” on june 25th (i picked my birthday for mid-summer Dec maintenance pruning.)

These two, i decided not to “maintain” at all.

Solanum Dulcamara - maintaining the aggressive “clone” growth is enough, for now. Let it ride.



I also decided to let the Ribes “ride” too... not really worth a picture.. but i got kind of a neat representation of “where it’s at”

 

[HorseloverFat]

(((Same-ish Update)))

1. Acer Sacch. (Also “lettin’ ride)

Eeeeesh! Check out that “wingspan”

(Plan is to prune low(er) in Autumn or Spring)

2. Adding “Rhus Typhina” 1 , to my 100-year non-ideal entries.


3. Glossy Buckthorn - Ridin’

4. ((update Acer Nigra)) upon moving outdoors, was riddled with local fungus..(Much like my Amur)... so here she “rides”... dripping with NEEM... waiting for a prune.


5. Adding this Cornus to my “entries”.. it was collected early on..and I couldn’t bring myself to include it in my recent, “Give some sticks back to the earth” initiative.. so I figure i’ll document it here, as opinions are fairly split regarding this species.. and it’s ALSO a “stick-in-a-pot”.. so non- ideal KIND of fits.

Cornus Florida(?) - (also “riding”)

 

[HorseloverFat]

(((Rosa Multiflora))

I was roughly half-way through some “cane-bud” selection, and thought I’d take a picture for documentation’s sake.

 

[HorseloverFat]

I’m attempting control over leaf size in my Fraxinus (Hey! It’s my non-ideal thread), through a technique I used to apply to Pablano and Bell pepper plants to “open them up” to allow more “fruit” through leaf reduction...

No idea if it will work, but thought I’d document it, just in case it DOES.


Now it’s up to him.... Ash Ketchum.

 

[HorseloverFat]

(((Update))) Sambucus Racemosa

 

[HorseloverFat]

(((Update))) Fraxinus and Rosa Multiflora

So, utilizing that “pepper plant” method to control internode and leaf size by “stock-piling” hormones to confuse and shock the plant into non-“comfortable” growth pattern... is going... I just got it to force a bud in the middle of a previously longer, semi-hardwood internode.. (it isn’t doing much for the leaves... yet)


The Rosa Multiflora is behaving EXACTLY how i want it to (besides the constant de-caning )

 

[HorseloverFat]

Update

Juglans... just doin’ it’s “thang”

 

[HorseloverFat]

UPDATE.

Rhus... they really pick the branches that THEY want... you have to make sure YOU select the correct one, also.

Just a haircut and setting the trunk line..

YES the wire got slack when making the “adjustments”.... it’s semi-hardwood.. give me a break.

 

[HorseloverFat]

(((Update)) Bittersweet nightshade.

 

[HorseloverFat]

(((Update))) Fraxinus experiment.

Still working on “getting a feel” for these growth patterns.. some leaf cutting experimentation, as well.

 

[HorseloverFat]

During my “battle” with seasonal pests this year, (I will be much more prepared NEXT season) I ended up taking a greater deal of time “up close and personal”.. bonding, if you will, with my plants.. which I now realized I had stopped doing as much. NEVER AGAIN! ...

Anyways.. I noticed that this specimen is ACTUALLY a “Toyon”, or “ChristmasBerry” A Heteromeles, I BELIEVE...

Hmmm... “Insterding”.....

@Leo in N E Illinois , I was curious if you had any personal experience with this specie?
(I WAS able to find some reading material on them )