Get out of the water! You’re getting all Prunus!

[Frozentreehugger]

What a scam . Like here what happened to my uncle . On his land . In theory here Government is mainly interested in taxable income from trees . So you can use the firewood small tree allowed use of the land for a Yamadori . If say a group or club go collecting . They should get permission to remove multiple trees . But there is no permit to buy . Just a process There should be a small fee . Based on the fee a logging company pays as a stump fee . But gov is only interested in . Taxes . Ie if you own land and remove trees in any quantity . Big brother sees that and measures stumps from the air .if you don’t volunteer what happened to the trees . They send you a tax bill from the info they have . The government noticed my uncles. Trees gone before he did . Landscaping companies go dig up wild trees all the time . And sell them as nursery stock eastern white cedar sold for hedges for example . Drive down a back road and walk into forest with a shovel and take a truck load . But you must be up to no good if your painstakingly trying to get one small tree from a rock cliff

 

[Frozentreehugger]

Though I loaded these already . First pic is prunus Virginia choke cherry in my garden cut back about 2 feet tall early this winter . Dead leaves are full size sugar maple tree was heavily feed 2 years in a pot 10 in the ground. About 8 inches across the base : second pic is mystery tree I believe prunes growing in a store from planter fruits are small . Multi stem plant about 3 feet tall planted with Amur maple . Obviously very cold hardy notice the small dead leaves I collected fruit for seeds fruit about 1/2 the size of choke cherry

 

[HorseloverFat]

Though I loaded these already . First pic is prunus Virginia choke cherry in my garden cut back about 2 feet tall early this winter . Dead leaves are full size sugar maple tree was heavily feed 2 years in a pot 10 in the ground. About 8 inches across the base : second pic is mystery tree I believe prunes growing in a store from planter fruits are small . Multi stem plant about 3 feet tall planted with Amur maple . Obviously very cold hardy notice the small dead leaves I collected fruit for seeds fruit about 1/2 the size of choke cherry

Nice Specimen!!!

The Mystery tree looks a bit like "cherry plum" or "plum cherry" I cannot remember... but the twigging makes me think
"Haw"... if it IS Haw... germination is very lengthy, I believe.

The Choke cherry is very hardy.. I collected mine from a bluff/crag... where it was entirely encased in ice yearly, including it's largely exposed root system. I doubt I could kill it.

 

[Frozentreehugger]

Mystery tree I only have fruit to attempt from seed . It’s a nursery tree . It’s the small leaves and tight ramification that drew my attention . Will check out the mother plants in flower . I have 4 other choke cherries same situation one smaller one also cut back . Other 2 still full size . I am aware how cold hardy they are . See how the respond all planted same time . Size difference is amount of sun . Other large in is single stem with some suckers. But I would say the best of the four . Seed source is . Listed as national remarkable tree I’m the National arboretum Ottawa . Thing is massive 3.5 foot trunk . Biggest I have ever seen .

 

[Apex37]

Man this making me wanna go back to my local nursery and pick up a plum I was debating on getting. Had gnarly bark similar to this one, not quite as wide nebari, but had no idea what type it was (unlabeled).

 

[Frozentreehugger]

Your aware I assume of the chock cherry. Use buy the . Aboriginal people

 

[Frozentreehugger]

Man this making me wanna go back to my local nursery and pick up a plum I was debating on getting. Had gnarly bark similar to this one, not quite as wide nebari, but had no idea what type it was (unlabeled).

There 2 different trees the base . Is my garden planted choke cherry . The leaves and fruit pick is a . Front of store planted nursery tree . I collected seeds from . No idea what it is but very tight ramification and small leaves . Looks prunus . But most prunus leaves are large . HFL thinks maybe howthorm . Maybe but don’t think the leaves are correct or fruit don’t look like a haw looks like a cherry

 

[Frozentreehugger]

Man this making me wanna go back to my local nursery and pick up a plum I was debating on getting. Had gnarly bark similar to this one, not quite as wide nebari, but had no idea what type it was (unlabeled).

All the prunus make nice bonsai . But get ready for a pest control regime . Like apple everything likes to eat it . But bonsai has a advantage . Regular. Dunk entire tree in water for 24 hours . Drown the little MF plus east to spray and get the whole tree compared to a orchard . . Still I had a heartbreak lost a real nice colected wild cow chomped apple to borrers 10 inch trunk only 22 inches high

 

[Apex37]

All the prunus make nice bonsai . But get ready for a pest control regime . Like apple everything likes to eat it . But bonsai has a advantage . Regular. Dunk entire tree in water for 24 hours . Drown the little MF plus east to spray and get the whole tree compared to a orchard . . Still I had a heartbreak lost a real nice colected wild cow chomped apple to borrers 10 inch trunk only 22 inches high

Got it, yeah I've been holding off on some trees just cause I'm not sure I'm ready for the pest prevention involved as I'm still learning and only been doing this a year.

Cherries and plums are amongst my favorite in bonsai so maybe one day. I'm running out of room in the backyard, so having to be limited on what I get from here till we move.

 

[Frozentreehugger]

Man this making me wanna go back to my local nursery and pick up a plum I was debating on getting. Had gnarly bark similar to this one, not quite as wide nebari, but had no idea what type it was (unlabeled).

Considering your location you should have access to all kinds of prunes that just won’t survive up north you should put your usda. Climate zone in your bio I have to admit if I lived anywhere near the south west USA. I would forget . Everything else and be in the mountains. Looking for Junipers some say the best . Yamadori on the entire planet is there

 

[HorseloverFat]

Your aware I assume of the chock cherry. Use buy the . Aboriginal people

Yes... friends of mine on the oneida res still use "bitter-berry" for a variety of ailments.

 

[shinmai]

When I was a kid in Montana my mother made preserves and syrup from chokecherry. The chokecherry thickets were nearly head-high, and virtually impenetrable. A great place to find pheasants, but the damned birds had an uncanny ability to flush on the opposite side of the thicket.

I bought a flowering sand cherry at my favorite nursery on Sunday. It’s prunus x cistena, and produces dark purple foliage. It flowers first, then makes leaves, thereby—like any intelligent creature—prioritizing sex over food.

”Cistena” is a Lakota word for baby or small infant, in reference to the cultivar’s small flowers and relatively short growth habit.

 

[Frozentreehugger]

That cherry sounds cool do you have a pic . My grand mother used to make choke cherry / wild sour apple jelly . The idea was not like jam on toast . It was sour so needed something sweet to put it on . Like a cookie . Or pancakes with maple syrup wish I had a few bottles. .

 

[Frozentreehugger]

The chock cherry has incredible . Preservation qualities . Also great anti toxin very very healthy to eat . The aboriginal people of course new this . Have multiple medicinal uses for it . Plus pemmican . Is dry moose deer or buffalo trail food think beef jerky . Modern man was amazed at its ability to not rot and stay edible . Scientists. Discovered . The secret was ground up choke cherries

 

[shinmai]

This is what it looked like when I brought it home. It’s 39” from the soil.





Here it is thinned and cut down to about 16”.


I’d like it to be 10-12” eventually. I lifted it from the pot, and it has lots of circling roots, etc., so I anticipate repotting into a training pot after the foliage has hardened off. I liked the two principal trunks, but what really attracted me was the way that, even at this size, the bark is already developing a craggy texture. I’ll post pics when it flowers.

 

[Frozentreehugger]

Cool tree I don’t see any ugly graft . Like so many nursery trees . bark dies look nice. What colour are the flowers

 

[shinmai]

White, judging from the Monrovia tag attached.
I watched a video this morning on cherry bonsai. It was in Japanese with the usual crappy subtitles but the guy seemed to emphasize using cut paste because of cherries being susceptible to infection. Interestingly he applied it to the ends of larger roots that he cut as well.

 

[Frozentreehugger]

White, judging from the Monrovia tag attached.
I watched a video this morning on cherry bonsai. It was in Japanese with the usual crappy subtitles but the guy seemed to emphasize using cut paste because of cherries being susceptible to infection. Interestingly he applied it to the ends of larger roots that he cut as well.

All the prunus are short lived trees . Cheery tree in Japan lives 120 years average in the wild . There are some 200 old bonsai . Same as mume about 60 to 80 years wild some bonsai over 120 but rare . Every bug and disease lives prunus . So eventually they lose the battle . So any preventive measure is a positive . A bonus is the plant counteract the problem with rapid growth .

 

[HorseloverFat]

All the prunus are short lived trees . Cheery tree in Japan lives 120 years average in the wild . There are some 200 old bonsai . Same as mume about 60 to 80 years wild some bonsai over 120 but rare . Every bug and disease lives prunus . So eventually they lose the battle . So any preventive measure is a positive . A bonus is the plant counteract the problem with rapid growth .

Yezzir! With Prunus and Malus you KNOW you will be entering into a lifelong skirmish... So I tend to prepare accordingly. However, preventative measures through tree health seem to be the addition to the arsenal that REALLY gauges success.

 

[Frozentreehugger]

In the north our cold winters help . Don’t baby prunus . Species all the cold there hardyness level will stand . Helps kill the bad . And plant responds well explodes to life in spring .