Cause of yellowish leaves...

[Cadillactaste]

These root like a weed anyway. She could wire the looping roots outward on the back side that they come from, cut them off leaving enough wired down into the soil and let them root from there.

ed

So...in right...creating two trees? Would the roots need grafted though? They aren't that big...my bougainvillea book mentions grafting of roots.

I guess the biggest thing would be to wait until spring...and unpot it. See exactly what we have to work with.

 

[edprocoat]

Grafted roots ? That could be done, what I was saying is to reposition the roots. The circling roots look to be coming from the trunk opposite the two strong roots. I would cut them off where the enter the soil now and wire them out from the trunk and down into the soil on the side they originate from starting a radial look like they should be. Maybe leave about 4-5 inches of root, and inch or so out then down into the soil.

ed

 

[Victrinia Ridgeway]

Billy Rhodes, on the IBC wrote:

I agree, and rest my case!

That would seem to imply there was a case to begin with? This wasn't a how to style the tree thread.... it's a what is wrong with my tree thread. If one makes a comment one doesn't like an aspect of the tree... and the owners says I see where you are coming from, but I like it.... then to not let it go... is less than gracious, since your point was already made in the original assertion. Not sure why you are persisting... and believe me when I say I'm not really asking for an answer. Mostly because it'll be something along the lines that you have to reiterate for the safety of those who might stumble on this thread. I'd agree in certain cases that persistence is needed where someone is spreading misinformation.... but this isn't that case. She acknowledged it's not usual, but that she likes it and it speaks to her. Seems good enough. Clearly you aren't going to dissuade her.

So... I'll see your bored empahtic assertion, and raise you a mildly amused observation.


Cadillac...

Glad to see it bouncing back my dear.

V

 

[Cadillactaste]

Thanks Vic...yes signs of pushing new growth just assured me it was indeed going to be okay.

I'm used to ones sometimes not seeing what I see in something. I am attaching something from my phone. So no clue if it will be right side up. But...one either likes this winter scarecrow or completely opposite. Both are quite opinionated on their comments. I find I like added character in somethings to the extreme.

 

[Cadillactaste]

Grafted roots ? That could be done, what I was saying is to reposition the roots. The circling roots look to be coming from the trunk opposite the two strong roots. I would cut them off where the enter the soil now and wire them out from the trunk and down into the soil on the side they originate from starting a radial look like they should be. Maybe leave about 4-5 inches of root, and inch or so out then down into the soil.

ed

So...trying to grasp this. Not cutting them from the tree...but where they are further out from it. And stick the cut part into the soil... ?

 

[Victrinia Ridgeway]

Thanks Vic...yes signs of pushing new growth just assured me it was indeed going to be okay.

I'm used to ones sometimes not seeing what I see in something. I am attaching something from my phone. So no clue if it will be right side up. But...one either likes this winter scarecrow or completely opposite. Both are quite opinionated on their comments. I find I like added character in somethings to the extreme.

That looked like a badly abused potato at first glance.... After seeing that... WELLLLLLLL.... the roots make COMPLETE sense. lol

Hugs,

V

 

[Derek91]

So...trying to grasp this. Not cutting them from the tree...but where they are further out from it. And stick the cut part into the soil... ?

I think that's what he means. basically cutting the problem roots at the soil line (maybe a little lower if possible) dipping the cut ends in some hormone and wiring them where you want.kinda like re rooting the roots.correct me if I'm wrong but that's kinda how I read it.

 

[Cadillactaste]

That looked like a badly abused potato at first glance.... After seeing that... WELLLLLLLL.... the roots make COMPLETE sense. lol

Hugs,

V

Bawahahahahahaha that's a new one. My husband calls it our "Zombie Snowman" though it has a bit of stuffing coming from it's belly with a mouse sticking out. Thus...winter scarecrow.

I figured if ones seen my...um-mmm unusual taste for some things. It might explain a lot. I am so used to ones either really liking something I own...or complete opposite. Because I tend to fall out of the normal category in so many things. Dare to be different is my motto. I am also so used to opinionated opinions...I get ones might not like something.

I also seen where Jim was right about the looping around the trunk roots to an extent, trying to imagine them years to come. Thus...I tweaked them and do like them better. Since I did like that photo of the twisted roots...it reminds me of trees we have seen on our hikes. Typically they are a tangle growing about because they can't find soil I reckon with a lot of rocks about the area.

But, these are only attached at the soil tacked down. Add a repot and who knows what will happen to those roots or what exactly we will be looking at when that time comes. Though...this won't be my tree when said and done. If the youth enjoys working bonsai. Or...she may prefer to have a different variety all together. Bougainvillea are my heart...I can still give guidance on this one. And if she finds a tree she would rather have as a first tree. I'll see what I can do.

 

[edprocoat]

I think that's what he means. basically cutting the problem roots at the soil line (maybe a little lower if possible) dipping the cut ends in some hormone and wiring them where you want.kinda like re rooting the roots.correct me if I'm wrong but that's kinda how I read it.

Yeah that's it, I did this on the root in this thread of my Bougie http://bonsainut.com/forums/showthread.php?12487-Bougie-survivor-!/page2&highlight=bougie+survivor This root was abouyt 20 inches long before it had roots, it basically circled the soil above the roots several inches below filling the top of the pot it was in. I cut it back and wired it straight over following the trunk into the mix. It has a bunch of new fine roots growing just beneath the surface now, well when I repotted it.

ed

 

[Cadillactaste]

Yeah that's it, I did this on the root in this thread of my Bougie http://bonsainut.com/forums/showthread.php?12487-Bougie-survivor-!/page2&highlight=bougie+survivor This root was abouyt 20 inches long before it had roots, it basically circled the soil above the roots several inches below filling the top of the pot it was in. I cut it back and wired it straight over following the trunk into the mix. It has a bunch of new fine roots growing just beneath the surface now, well when I repotted it.

ed

So it sounds very much like a normal behavior of some Bougie roots then...any pictures of the process there Ed? I thought I was following along...until you said you wired it to the trunk...into the mix. So you attached it to the tree trunk...or the soil the end you cut...I am again foggy. (Sorry)

It's been a long day. Maybe tomorrow it will sink in more.

 

[Cadillactaste]

Vic...side note I forgot to add about the winter scarecrow. My husband had asked if I bought it for a gift, since I bought it around Christmas time...I surely looked at him like he just sprouted two heads...and said,"Have you LOOKED real close at that scarecrow/snowman!?! ITS UGLY!...Now of course I can appreciate that. But someone else might not." Yup...it's how I roll.

 

[Cadillactaste]

A message out of the blue from the eBay seller asking how the bougainvillea is doing. That was nice of them...

 

[tmmason10]

Well? How is it doing?

 

[Cadillactaste]

Well? How is it doing?

Pushing new growth...and the leaves turned back to green...after fertilized. Though...it may have just as readily adjusted to climate change. Not really sure. But...it's thriving. Thanks for asking.