Smoke
Ignore-Amus
Hell, I could have told you all that, but Al keeps putting these qulifiers on who gets to answer
There are 7,849 members here. You and I are in a very small minority.
Cation exchange capacity and water retention rates list
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There are 7,849 members here. You and I are in a very small minority.
Mellow Mullet
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Hell, I could have told you all that, but Al keeps putting these qulifiers on who gets to answer
Good for you, you know that fertilizer is good for trees.
I don't think that there were any qualifiers on who could answer. I think that the chart was posted but it was difficult to read or understand, I deal with charts and data all day at work. Al kept poking and no one else would nibble so I responded, and made an ass out of myself with a huge spelling mistake.
John
ABCarve
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Hmmm.... Maybe I need a lesson. I guess I've heard it referred to as peat-moss. What is the difference other than texture? Is it a different species?
Walter Pall
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Peat is partially decomposed sphagnum moss. We get this in big bags in Europe in any garden center.
ABCarve
Masterpiece
That is what I thought. We get it from Canada or Canadian Peat. It comes in a big brick. So you just break that up into your soil mix?
GrimLore
Bonsai Nut alumnus... we miss you
My Wife uses a small amount as a soil amendment for "some" of the landscape plants, tropicals. She tells me it helps but not on everything *shrugs*. I do not mess with it but this is the spec on what she has in the shed. It is made by Baccto.
Garden Magic Pre-Moistened Sphagnum Peat Moss
Garden Magic Pre-Moistened Sphagnum Peat Moss is ready for the home gardener right out of the bag. This product can be used as a top dressing for lawns and gardens as well as a base for custom mixes.
•Dense, fibrous brown sphagnum
• No dust and no pre-wetting needed
• Screened for uniform consistency
• Ready to use out of the bag
Recommended Applications:
•Planting trees, shrubs, flowers, vegetables, and bulbs
• Base mixture for acid loving plants
• Mulching of garden beds
• Aerate and loosen heavy soils
• Add body to light soil and help prevent erosion
• Base for custom mixes
•Winter protection
Product Availability:
Size Code
2 cu. ft. bags 5532
Grimmy
barrosinc
Masterpiece
so the difference in coarse peat and regular peat is the thickness?
Because peat is sphagnum moss that decomposes and you remove it and its peat. So I don't know how or why there is two varieties. In Chile I can find only one kind, and it is the same from very different brands and from a producer that I found.
Because peat is sphagnum moss that decomposes and you remove it and its peat. So I don't know how or why there is two varieties. In Chile I can find only one kind, and it is the same from very different brands and from a producer that I found.
Poink88
Imperial Masterpiece
Peat is very fine...you do not want to use that on bonsai soil. Use shredded sphagnum moss. Though once decomposed it will become peat, as a substrate component, they are VERY DIFFERENT.
Some will label products as sphagnum peat...from experience here, it is still plain peat moss.
Lazylightningny
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thanks for the chart. very informative. I printed it out for reference.
ABCarve
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I think the confusing part of this is that Walter P. refers to his soil component as "coarse peat" on his blog. Peat is referred to on this thread as fine, decomposed sphagnum moss. So, is it the shredded sphagnum moss that Walter is referring to as "coarse peat"???
Poink88
Imperial Masterpiece
Not sure but I believe so.
GrimLore
Bonsai Nut alumnus... we miss you
Coarse Peat is far less fine. It is what we call grower grade peat in the USA. Much like cutting sphagnum to 3 or 4 inch lengths. I do not know the specifications but that is the best I can describe it. It would take that a far longer time to break down to powder.
Grimmy
Grimmy
barrosinc
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from the pictures I see online it looks like it is a less decomposed sphagnum moss... sort of a mix between peat and chopped sphagnum moss.
But I might be wrong... that is just speaking from what I can see from 600x400 pixels pictures of the stuff.
But I might be wrong... that is just speaking from what I can see from 600x400 pixels pictures of the stuff.
coh
Imperial Masterpiece
I've never seen a "coarse" peat here in the U.S., only the standard bales of compressed, fine peat. That said...Julian Adams has said that he adds this peat to his standard mix (mostly turface, some granite, a bit of peat). He told me he takes the compressed peat and roughly/partly breaks it, then passes it through a screen to remove the fine particles. I've tried this and you can get a small yield of peat "chunks" of various sizes that will hold together a bit, at least long enough to add to a soil mix and pot up a tree. I don't know how long they stay intact once they get in the pot and get watered every day.
Chris
Chris
milehigh_7
Mister 500,000
Small update to the chart to include Diatomatious Earth. Info from EP's website. I included a pdf if you would prefer.
Warpig
Chumono
I bump this topic with the fear that im just asking for a soil war, but if a war might lead to me making a better soil decision. So be it.
Thank you @Cable for pointing me to this chart. Some real good info here. I just wanted to ask if theres been any new info or anything has been since updated?
Thank you @Cable for pointing me to this chart. Some real good info here. I just wanted to ask if theres been any new info or anything has been since updated?
BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
and now for the final ingredient.....
KillerButts
Mame
DE around your foundation prevents or kills insects with exoskeletons when crossed. I use the pool filter grade with a good mask on.
KillerButts
Mame
Warpig
Chumono
Ohhh that looks like a thriller. Im sure i'll be glued to the edge of my seat! For real tho, i might have to remember to check it out next time i stop by a Barnes N Nobles.
