California Juniper First Styling

Update: I decided to move towards V6 in post 7 per but with probably a tilt upward and slight turn clockwise. Here are a few not so good current pics with slightly different angles. I wired a few main branches and treated the dead wood. I'm going to repot into a shallower training pot in a few weeks. Comments welcome.View attachment 132150 View attachment 132151 View attachment 132152

I think it's a great decision. I like Sorce idea, maybe with flatter and very slightly dropped canopy. Less is more. That cool trunk asks to be the focal point.
 
I gotta put the virt on this page.
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Damn small...ah..Blame Van Fleet!

I watched this video last night....
Relevant because he talks about how the tree is not healthy enough to do much work to....
And from these photos, it seems yours may not have the vigor to rebound from a big repot.

Then again, it may be just what it needs!

This tree is way too cool to lose!

Sorce
 
I gotta put the virt on this page.
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Damn small...ah..Blame Van Fleet!

I watched this video last night....
Relevant because he talks about how the tree is not healthy enough to do much work to....
And from these photos, it seems yours may not have the vigor to rebound from a big repot.

Then again, it may be just what it needs!

This tree is way too cool to lose!

Sorce
I think you are right on the repot. I think I will wait until next year. I removed almost all the upper foliage that was shading the lower foliage which is the reason the lower foliage is not as vigorous as it should be. The only reason I really wanted to repot this year is that its been in that soil and container for several years already.
 
I think you are right on the repot. I think I will wait until next year. I removed almost all the upper foliage that was shading the lower foliage which is the reason the lower foliage is not as vigorous as it should be. The only reason I really wanted to repot this year is that its been in that soil and container for several years already.

I very well may be absolutely wrong....

Especially if it needs a release to put that healthy folaige on!

Maybe I shouldn't always open my mouth!

This tree is way too cool to lose!

Thats the important part!

Sorce
 
I very well may be absolutely wrong....

Especially if it needs a release to put that healthy folaige on!

Maybe I shouldn't always open my mouth!



Thats the important part!

Sorce

I was already contemplating the repot and I was just letting you know my thought process. I think the safer option is wait until next spring as opposed to repotting a non vigorous tree.
 
I went to a workshop this weekend with Mauro Stemburger and brought this tree. I new I wasn't the best at wiring but he made me very aware on my short comings. I did manage to get it all wired to his satisfaction in about 3 hours and he basically set the branches in about 5 min. He liked the angle of the tree as it was already sitting and he chose to give a nice fan first branch. I think it looks great. It needs a ton of refinement over the next few years. The foliage and the deadwood need refinement and of course it eventually need to get into a nice pot. It looks better in real life than the picture.
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I went to a workshop this weekend with Mauro Stemburger and brought this tree. I new I wasn't the best at wiring but he made me very aware on my short comings.
So he said something like, 'Toh mahsss, your wiring is shiiita!"? :D

I forget where he was, but the people there had tee shirts printed with a phrase like this - wore them to the last session with Mauro !
 
He actually just said NO and then explained where I went wrong but I know where you are coming "froma" (said with an accent). He is actually very cool and very good and I learned a ton.
 
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So he said something like, 'Toh mahsss, your wiring is shiiita!"? :D

I forget where he was, but the people there had tee shirts printed with a phrase like this - wore them to the last session with Mauro !
I love it! I want a "shiita" shirt! @Bonsai Nut new design option? LOL!
 
I decided I do not want to go in the direction of the first styling. I have not really touched the tree since because I have not decided which way to take this tree. Attached are three pictures. First is how the tree looks today. Second is option A and third is option B. I am leaning in one direction but wanted to get opinions before I pulled the trigger. If you have any other ideas I would love to hear them.

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Great decision! 3rd pic w/down sweeping foliage branch by far most interesting and attractive of all ideas posted;).
 
Turned out SOOOO much better than vast majority of uncreative ideas/virts. GREAT you took to good tree designer;).
 
Turned out SOOOO much better than vast majority of uncreative ideas/virts. GREAT you took to good tree designer;).

Thanks. I think its interesting to see all the Nuts and my designs and compare them to what a pro came up with. I didn't plan on getting help but this workshop kind of fell in my lap and that was the tree I was still unclear on. The help I did get in this thread steered me in the right direction so Mauro had the branches in the right places to be able to place them where he did.
 
Here one more kind of taking Adair's advice. This is Vert #16.

What do you think?

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This turned out to very similiar to what Mauro came up with!

How tall is this tree? The reason I ask is California Juniper foliage can be rather coarse. If it's on a big tree, it's ok. Smaller trees, are generally viewed closer up. And then coarse foliage looks out of scale.

When viewing a large tree, people often step back to view it. So as to "take it all in". There, coarse foliage isn't apparent. Smaller trees, just the opposite. People want to view them from a closer distance. And from there, if the foliage is coarse, it ruins the image.

Have you ever seen a Shohin California Juniper? I don't believe I have.

Now, CJ foliage is quite variable, and some is more compact than others. So, you might get lucky and get the foliage to make compact pads.

The other option is grafting shimpaku foliage on the trunk. It grows surprisingly quickly.

Food for thought...
 
Did a little work on this tree today and thought I would post a current pic. It is filling in nicely and is healthy.


Next spring I will put it in a training pot which will be larger than the final pot. I think it is too much of a jump to go from this large pot to an appropriate size bonsai pot.
I'm thinking a drum type pot. What do you think?


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