Mike123
Shohin
HELP ! buying at nursery
Can you use varagated proc. Juniper for bonsai?
Can you use varagated proc. Juniper for bonsai?
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Mike123
Shohin
anybody?
Nursery has quite a few old , twisting, varagated ones.
Nursery has quite a few old , twisting, varagated ones.
0soyoung
Imperial Masterpiece
Of course you can! However, variegated trees are slower growing than their non-variegated counterparts. Variegated foliage does not display well in a formal display setting where the background is usually something like an ecru colored wall.
Many times masterpiece junipers are made by replacing the foliage on those incredible trunks by grafting. Maybe you will graft on new foliage sometime in the future (that could be an entertaining project!).
Regardless, the point is that you are doing this for your enjoyment, so go buy some of those junipers you've got your eyes on and get to it!
Many times masterpiece junipers are made by replacing the foliage on those incredible trunks by grafting. Maybe you will graft on new foliage sometime in the future (that could be an entertaining project!).
Regardless, the point is that you are doing this for your enjoyment, so go buy some of those junipers you've got your eyes on and get to it!
Mike123
Shohin
0soyoung
Imperial Masterpiece
I hope you got more than one as there are so many possibilities and so many things that can be learned quickly with material like that. If I could find something like it here I would, among other things, gleefully try to emulate Pavel Slovak's garden sabina juniper magic.
You're set!
BTW, try to root whatever you cut off (good exercise and junipers are 'easy' to root). Then you could "wire 'em and twist 'em" to grow you own twisty trunks like you see in Japanese juniper bonsai. BNutter 'Smoke' posted a tutorial on this (but you'll have to search BNut to find it later, when you're got some rooted cuttings).
You're set!
BTW, try to root whatever you cut off (good exercise and junipers are 'easy' to root). Then you could "wire 'em and twist 'em" to grow you own twisty trunks like you see in Japanese juniper bonsai. BNutter 'Smoke' posted a tutorial on this (but you'll have to search BNut to find it later, when you're got some rooted cuttings).
Mike123
Shohin
coh
Imperial Masterpiece
Everyone should look at that sequence of images by Pavel Slovak. Very educational and potentially some good inspiration for the trees in this thread.
Chris
Chris
Mike123
Shohin
I couldn't pass it up 20 dollars a piece. I think I can learn a lot.
Cadillactaste
Neagari Gal
0soyoung
Imperial Masterpiece
Variegated with envy
Wash that muddy muck out of the roots first thing next spring. In my climate I would do it now (the key being to do as little damage to the roots as possible) because my first freeze date is sometime around Thanksgiving day (i.e., 8+ weeks away).
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Mike123
Shohin
Ok will do. Just cleaning up a little. Removing unwanted branches.
Mike123
Shohin
Mike123
Shohin
Derek91
Yamadori
Sweet find.That looks like great material and for twenty bucks was a steal.i might have filled the truck up had I ran across those
Mike123
Shohin
Yeah, they have 5 more think I'm going back! Didn't do anything but some dead work. But I can see some potential. Gotta get foliage back to trunk closer, but all in all I'm happy.
KennedyMarx
Omono
Generally a twin trunk bonsai will have trunks that move together, not against each other. While it recovers study the tree and think about jinning one of those sides of the tree completely and creating a lot of deadwood. After that you can wire all that foliage down on the remaining trunk and it will look very nice. At least that is what I would consider. I'm not an expert by any means.
And remember you can change the potting angle. Just think of it tilting more to one side or another.
And remember you can change the potting angle. Just think of it tilting more to one side or another.
Mike123
Shohin
Need some love people!
I know it needs a lot of work but come on people it doesn't look too bad for just sticking it next to a pot and doing a little bit of a dead wood.haven't done anything to the branches at all, but all in all I think it doesn't look too bad, but somebody that knows a lot more than me could bend those branches! I know the foliage is to far away from trunk but not a bad find. Just looking for a pat on the back
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I know it needs a lot of work but come on people it doesn't look too bad for just sticking it next to a pot and doing a little bit of a dead wood.haven't done anything to the branches at all, but all in all I think it doesn't look too bad, but somebody that knows a lot more than me could bend those branches! I know the foliage is to far away from trunk but not a bad find. Just looking for a pat on the back
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jk_lewis
Masterpiece
A couple of things.
1. Don't be surprised if, after a year or so of pruning, the "variegated-nes) of the foliage disappears. Many variegated trees tend to revert if not left alone.
2. Variegated varieties tend to be weaker than their normal kin -- more susceptible to cold or other environmental factors. I do NOT know if this holds for juniper.
Both seem to be very nice trees with a lot of potential. If the first one were mine I would resist making any kind of a cascade out of it. The world doesn't need many more procumbens cascades.
If the second one were mine, I would pick a front that does NOT have the doughnut right in the center. It makes me want to take out my pistol for a bit of target practice. And, as someone else mentioned, twin trunks traditionally follow parallel paths, not crossing loop-the-loop paths.
You could change the planting angle (we've only seen one side of each tree) to avoid the hole, or you could remove one of the trunks (which are identical in size and therefore a bit dullish), leaving a jin or not.
Whatever you decide, early spring is the time to start EITHER working on the tops or on the roots -- but not both.
1. Don't be surprised if, after a year or so of pruning, the "variegated-nes) of the foliage disappears. Many variegated trees tend to revert if not left alone.
2. Variegated varieties tend to be weaker than their normal kin -- more susceptible to cold or other environmental factors. I do NOT know if this holds for juniper.
Both seem to be very nice trees with a lot of potential. If the first one were mine I would resist making any kind of a cascade out of it. The world doesn't need many more procumbens cascades.
If the second one were mine, I would pick a front that does NOT have the doughnut right in the center. It makes me want to take out my pistol for a bit of target practice.
And, as someone else mentioned, twin trunks traditionally follow parallel paths, not crossing loop-the-loop paths. You could change the planting angle (we've only seen one side of each tree) to avoid the hole, or you could remove one of the trunks (which are identical in size and therefore a bit dullish), leaving a jin or not.
Whatever you decide, early spring is the time to start EITHER working on the tops or on the roots -- but not both.
Mike123
Shohin
Donut hole I didn't see, really didn't see it! Crazy I know, I was just carried away by the old age of these, untouched, sitting in back of nursery, not out in the open, I get the hole, there definitely is a another front or like you said maybe deadwood one half, but I think it's cool to find something like this. Like I said I will learn a lot from these and there's is 5 more. All different, so I may go back tomorrow ! No I will go back tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestion s.
KennedyMarx
Omono
Mike, I hope you didn't take my comment the wrong way. For what you've done so far it looks good. It has a lot of character already. I just wanted to point out what I thought would help to achieve its full potential. Bonsai takes time. I have a couple I worked on with a friend of mine that I'm letting recover before repotting and further styling. Be patient.
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