Bald cypress and dawn redwood

[Driver170]

Ryan neil mentions do not pinch either of these in his pinching to design. Because it will stop it turning into lignified wood?

Also what will dawn redwood come under in this species guide -

http://bonsai4me.com/species_guide.html

I was thinking cypress

 

[GGB]

I don't see any categories that it would fit into. I have never tried "pinching" my redwoods I just prune after they harden off. But... now that I think about it I'm not sure how one would maintain a finished specimen. hmm

 

[Driver170]

Ryan neil mentioned do not Fertilise in the spring wait until it hardens off

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

I'm not sure what people mean when they say pinch? How is that different than prune?

 

[Wilson]

Funny you started this thread, as I was just enjoying comparing the two earlier this evening. Both are extremely vigorous growers, but I find BC foliage much finer. I would agree with just pruning when due, not pinching fresh growth.

 

[Driver170]

I’m wanting to purchase a dawn redwood forest clump style

https://www.herons.co.uk/MobileDetail.php?Prod_ID=12299

But first learning much as possible

 

[Wilson]

The dawn's grow super fast! If you can afford the forests, and want to have a jump start, Beauty! You could always get some saplings, or seeds, and grow them out. It all depends on what you will enjoy. My dawn is from seed, and it grows like crazy! It doesn't even mind that it is planted in a used disposable plastic rotisserie chicken tray.

 

[Vin]

The list is precded by this statement: This list is by no means comprehensive; there are many species missing from this list that have great potential for bonsai.

 

[Driver170]

The list is precded by this statement: This list is by no means comprehensive; there are many species missing from this list that have great potential for bonsai.

Don’t get it?

Ryan also says only two times you can prune the redwood, 1 once the spring growth has lignified and 2 in the winter.

 

[Driver170]

I understand it better now.

Before you do any pruning you have to let the branch turn from green to woody and come back and prune it during the winter or when it hardens off.

If however during the spring you get shoots on the woody part you can prune the green shoots and buds will form at the base of the green shoot because the main branch has already lignified

 

[Vin]

Don’t get it?

Ryan also says only two times you can prune the redwood, 1 once the spring growth has lignified and 2 in the winter.

I'm not sure what you mean when you wrote "Don't get it?". The link you provided takes you to a page that lists different species suitable for bonsai. However, in the text above the list is the statement I quoted. You asked "what will dawn redwood come under in this species guide". The answer is nothing. Dawn Redwood is its own species and although it has many similar visual characteristics as Bald Cypress it is not quite the same. Coast Redwood also has similar characteristics as Bald Cypress and for that matter Dawn Redwood. However, it to has to be treated differently when pruning. Although I have all three species, I do not have all the answers. So, if Ryan says what you wrote then follow his guidelines.

 

[Vin]

I understand it better now.

Before you do any pruning you have to let the branch turn from green to woody and come back and prune it during the winter or when it hardens off.

If however during the spring you get shoots on the woody part you can prune the green shoots and buds will form at the base of the green shoot because the main branch has already lignified

I would say that statement is true.

 

[M. Frary]

will dawn redwood come under in this species guide

Doesnt that fall onto extending tree category in Mirai land?
Piece of cake.

 

[Driver170]

Doesnt that fall onto extending tree category in Mirai land?
Piece of cake.

Someone doesn’t like Mirai land.

 

[Driver170]

I would say that statement is true.

Ok thanks. How do you deal with your redwood? I’m just curious

 

[Vin]

I'm not a Master so I pretty much prune when it needs it. Sorry for the crappy photos.

 

[Driver170]

Maybe i should teach you

 

[Vance Wood]

I'm not sure what people mean when they say pinch? How is that different than prune?

The giant rub of salt in the eye. We all talk about pruning and pinching and clipping blah blah blah.....but----- are we talking about the same thing, at the same time, about the same tree?????? I think we have all advanced to the point where this crap becomes significant. Are we talking metaphorically or literally? The masters in charge need to say what they mean and be able to describe what they mean, don't pinch this but you can pinch that----what do you mean by pinching?

 

[petegreg]

I'm not a Master so I pretty much prune when it needs it. Sorry for the crappy photos.

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Nice one, Vin. I love a composition with a rock. Mine has some problematic nebari and this would treat it definitely...gonna look for some travertine.

 

[Vin]

Nice one, Vin. I love a composition with a rock. Mine has some problematic nebari and this would treat it definitely...gonna look for some travertine.

Thanks! I told this story before I think. I showed this tree at our local club show in April of this year. I'm not saying it's a great tree but everyone seem to like it. It was on display for about three hours before someone realized it was a Dawn Redwood and not a Bald Cypress.