Trees to collect in Nj

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Hi I’m in New Jersey and I’m looking to collect before the winter. So I found a list of trees that are in NJ and I need your help to tell me if they are good for bonsai.
So what is good for bonsai ?
  • Hazel Alder.
  • Silver Bell.
  • Sweet Birch.
  • Flowering Dogwood.
  • Black Spruce.
  • American Holly.
  • Red Oak
  • Pitch Pine
  • Eastern white pine
  • Many more
 
  • Hazel Alder - not commonly used, but could work well enough for bonsai. Leaves are a touch large
  • Silver Bell. - Styrax americana- the native Styrax species or if you can find the related silverbell Halesia caroliniana - both species are uncommon in the wild. Both can make good bonsai, their horticulture is somewhat tricky, not really "beginner plants" but no reason not to try if you can find either one.
  • Sweet Birch - due to large leaves that do not reduce well, and coarse branching, not often used for bonsai. Lovely bark, make it worth the effort if you are a fan.
  • Flowering Dogwood - Cornus florida - makes an exquisite deciduous "literati" style, or a sparse, airy, graceful, slender trunk tree. Bill Valavanis has done several lovely examples over the years.
  • Black Spruce - Picea mariana - a "creature" of the pine barrens. Excellent for bonsai.
  • American Holly. - Ilex opaca - excellent for bonsai - all Ilex species are good, some are deciduous, some are evergreen. Try to collect both male and female specimens, so you can get berries. Their winter image with the red berries is why people seek them out.
  • Red Oak - all oaks make good bonsai, but oaks are slow to develop. Myself I promote the idea of attempting bur oak, Quercus macrocarpa, its leaves start out huge, but it has the most coarse, rough bark of any of the North American native oaks. Because they are slow to trunk up in container culture, they are not recommended as beginner trees, but no reason to not attempt.
  • Pitch Pine - an ideal native pine for bonsai, it should be treated as a double flush pine, treat it similar to Japanese Black pine.
  • Eastern white pine - Pinus strobus - a wretched pine for bonsai. You will struggle with it for a decade or two, and after decades of work you will deem it worthy of the compost heap. I'm being harsh, but Eastern white pine, pinus strobus has issues that are difficult to manage. Any other species of pine will perform better than P. strobus for bonsai. There are one or two "good examples as bonsai" but they are the exception. Most people give up in frustration with EWP.
  • Many more - Look for Pinus virginiana, it is a decent pine for bonsai also.
Your best pine to use is Pitch pine, Pinus rigida.

An introduced invasive species is the scots pine - Pinus sylvestris. - it makes excellent bonsai, and if you find it in the wild, you will be removing an invasive species.

Another invasive species that makes good bonsai are any of the Elaeagnus species. Autumn olive, silverberry, and goumi berry. Actually there are 4 species, all introduced, at least 2 are invasive species in NJ and will make decent bonsai, fragrant small white flowers, and "somewhat edible" fruit.
 
  • Hazel Alder - not commonly used, but could work well enough for bonsai. Leaves are a touch large
  • Silver Bell. - Styrax americana- the native Styrax species or if you can find the related silverbell Halesia caroliniana - both species are uncommon in the wild. Both can make good bonsai, their horticulture is somewhat tricky, not really "beginner plants" but no reason not to try if you can find either one.
  • Sweet Birch - due to large leaves that do not reduce well, and coarse branching, not often used for bonsai. Lovely bark, make it worth the effort if you are a fan.
  • Flowering Dogwood - Cornus florida - makes an exquisite deciduous "literati" style, or a sparse, airy, graceful, slender trunk tree. Bill Valavanis has done several lovely examples over the years.
  • Black Spruce - Picea mariana - a "creature" of the pine barrens. Excellent for bonsai.
  • American Holly. - Ilex opaca - excellent for bonsai - all Ilex species are good, some are deciduous, some are evergreen. Try to collect both male and female specimens, so you can get berries. Their winter image with the red berries is why people seek them out.
  • Red Oak - all oaks make good bonsai, but oaks are slow to develop. Myself I promote the idea of attempting bur oak, Quercus macrocarpa, its leaves start out huge, but it has the most coarse, rough bark of any of the North American native oaks. Because they are slow to trunk up in container culture, they are not recommended as beginner trees, but no reason to not attempt.
  • Pitch Pine - an ideal native pine for bonsai, it should be treated as a double flush pine, treat it similar to Japanese Black pine.
  • Eastern white pine - Pinus strobus - a wretched pine for bonsai. You will struggle with it for a decade or two, and after decades of work you will deem it worthy of the compost heap. I'm being harsh, but Eastern white pine, pinus strobus has issues that are difficult to manage. Any other species of pine will perform better than P. strobus for bonsai. There are one or two "good examples as bonsai" but they are the exception. Most people give up in frustration with EWP.
  • Many more - Look for Pinus virginiana, it is a decent pine for bonsai also.
Your best pine to use is Pitch pine, Pinus rigida.

An introduced invasive species is the scots pine - Pinus sylvestris. - it makes excellent bonsai, and if you find it in the wild, you will be removing an invasive species.

Another invasive species that makes good bonsai are any of the Elaeagnus species. Autumn olive, silverberry, and goumi berry. Actually there are 4 species, all introduced, at least 2 are invasive species in NJ and will make decent bonsai, fragrant small white flowers, and "somewhat edible" fruit.
Thanks so much 🙏
 
I agree wholeheartedly with Leo. He is spot on with one exception:

Hazel Alder has biggish leaves, however the first leaves that flush out are small and they grow as the branch grows. Its my belief the species would work well for bonsai with proper care. Other than the apical branches on mine, leaves were not large, at least no larger than those on my zelkova or on my linden. I expect the species to reduce well. It seemed I had smaller leaves this year, vs last year.

Also, I am trying white pine with the knowledge that I am likely to spend years of frustration.
 
I’m starting to collect bittersweet also . Got 2 natives and 1 oriental bittersweet! I will be collecting a lot more
 
And some states (not Mi Ca Il etc.) Don't know what trees are!


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I agree wholeheartedly with Leo. He is spot on with one exception:

Hazel Alder has biggish leaves, however the first leaves that flush out are small and they grow as the branch grows. Its my belief the species would work well for bonsai with proper care. Other than the apical branches on mine, leaves were not large, at least no larger than those on my zelkova or on my linden. I expect the species to reduce well. It seemed I had smaller leaves this year, vs last year.

Also, I am trying white pine with the knowledge that I am likely to spend years of frustration.

I feel like Eastern White Pine are a lot like Ponderosa, they need to be big to be convincing. I have seen nice looking pads on trees in the wild (duh), but the minituarizing seems to be the issue.
 
I have like 4 bittersweet in like these little pots . I have a triple , 2 doubles and a single trunk so very cool stuff . Where should I put these for the next month ? In an unheated garage with no light or just keep them outside?
 
I have like 4 bittersweet in like these little pots . I have a triple , 2 doubles and a single trunk so very cool stuff . Where should I put these for the next month ? In an unheated garage with no light or just keep them outside?
Protect from hard freeze and frost, seeing as you just collected them(garage sounds perfect).. this will raise your percentage for success... but if they were established.. they could fare your winter in containers.

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What kind of tree in this and does it have potential?
 

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What kind of tree in this and does it have potential?
I cant tell what that is. Its hard without leaves. It might make an interesting clump but without knowing the species.
Looks like its ready though, those buds are swelling.
 
What kind of tree in this and does it have potential?

Vaccinium, possibly V. corymbosa or one of the other blueberry relatives. The fat terminal buds as flower buds. At least that is my bet from your photos.

They make reasonable bonsai. Worth collecting. And if you are not happy with its bonsai prospects, you can grow it for its fruit.
 
Vaccinium, possibly V. corymbosa or one of the other blueberry relatives. The fat terminal buds as flower buds. At least that is my bet from your photos.

They make reasonable bonsai. Worth collecting. And if you are not happy with its bonsai prospects, you can grow it for its fruit.
Yeah looks like the same bark and characteristics when growing . Probably will collect and try to make a cool clump since they were are growing with radial roots and some had nice nebari
 
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