Collected Hawthorn History

[Woocash]

This one grows roots 6’ long in a year.

Could it be that being somewhat pot bound would instigate the formation of flowers as opposed to concentrating on root recovery and vigour?

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Good shot in the sunshine yesterday.

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Bark is starting to shed, it’s going to be a good exfoliation year...should be cool in a few days.

 

[just.wing.it]

That cracking bark is so cool! Great tree, one of my all time B-Nut favs for sure.

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Funky…Rorschach test mode.

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Leafless…

 

[leatherback]

Cool tree. One thought that popper in my mind. Do you need the back-trunk?

 

[Crazy Diamond]

Sorry I dont know if its been discussed in the past its a big post, but you dont let it flower? or the tree doesnt flower because I dont remenber seen a photo of the tree with flowers

 

[Crazy Diamond]

Nope. It was blooming when I sawed it down in 1999, and it hasn’t bloomed since.

Oh sorry I didnt see that, amazing that many years without flower!! I wonder if its normal in the species or just that tree

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Do you need the back-trunk?

Yes.

Sorry I dont know if its been discussed in the past its a big post, but you dont let it flower? or the tree doesnt flower because I dont remenber seen a photo of the tree with flowers

It was in flower when I collected it, but hasn’t flowered since.

 

[Tbrshou]

So I have a chance to collect a little hip a bit larger than this 1. Got a couple questions
1)Was the V cut by choice for style or necessary for taper?
2)would I need to do a V cut in order to style the little hip in a similar style as yours? Or can this style be achieved but not cutting the V?

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

So I have a chance to collect a little hip a bit larger than this 1. Got a couple questions
1)Was the V cut by choice for style or necessary for taper?
2)would I need to do a V cut in order to style the little hip in a similar style as yours? Or can this style be achieved but not cutting the V?

I cut it flat, and it rotted away to somewhat of a V with just a little added carving. You could achieve a similar style, but the challenge would be to grow branches big enough to create convincing taper. They thicken up very slowly.

 

[Tbrshou]

I cut it flat, and it rotted away to somewhat of a V with just a little added carving. You could achieve a similar style, but the challenge would be to grow branches big enough to create convincing taper. They thicken up very slowly.

Ok got it thanks

 

[SeanS]

@Brian Van Fleet any consideration of the circular form created by the 2 front trunks? Ryan Neil always mentions avoiding “circular forms” in trunks and branches and my eye keeps being drawn to the middle of your tree. Have you noticed it before?

Beautiful tree either way

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

@Brian Van Fleet any consideration of the circular form created by the 2 front trunks? Ryan Neil always mentions avoiding “circular forms” in trunks and branches and my eye keeps being drawn to the middle of your tree. Have you noticed it before?

Beautiful tree either way

I don’t follow Ryan, but it makes sense from a design perspective. The circular area is caused by a guy-wire that serves two purposes:
1. It anchors a thread-graft shown by the green line. It has been in place for several years and has not thickened enough to separate.
2. It’s pulling the left side more vertical, but I’m over-correcting to ensure it ends up in the correct position. When finished, it should not cross in front of the rear trunk, but relax a bit to the left.

 

[SeanS]

I don’t follow Ryan, but it makes sense from a design perspective. The circular area is caused by a guy-wire that serves two purposes:
1. It anchors a thread-graft shown by the green line. It has been in place for several years and has not thickened enough to separate.
2. It’s pulling the left side more vertical, but I’m over-correcting to ensure it ends up in the correct position. When finished, it should not cross in front of the rear trunk, but relax a bit to the left.
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Thanks for the reply @Brian Van Fleet
Like I said amazing tree, thanks for the insight into the actions that have created it

 

[PiñonJ]

avoiding “circular forms”

In any case, it’s far from a perfect circle, or even even oval, being broken up by the branchlets.

 

[Highbidjj]

Thank you Brian for the great gift of allowing us all to learn from your years of work on this fine example.

 

[JudyB]

Have always appreciated this tree for the natural flow of it. Nice to see her again.

 

[Crazy Diamond]

You think the Crataegus could flower this year? or you lost the hope after so many years