Zelkova nire

[Davidlpf]

I found it!! Another great example of bark development:check it out click,click

more greetings

 

[petegreg]

Hi,

Nice little tree, congratulations.

IMO It is Ulmus parvifolia var. nire-keyaki. You have an article here click,click (Sorry it is in Spanish, but photos are quite good)

I purchase one some time ago

I let it grow (no cork bark in new growth)

and I made an airlayer

Well, in fact, I did five airlayers

And after one year growing by its own

I hope corky bark will appear sooner or later, but I am quite sure that one day will appear.

Again, congratulations for your new tree, and good luck with the cuttings

Greetings form Spain.

Thanks for ID indeed...we have dealth with it many times here not coming to consensus. Nice trees BTW.

 

[defra]

Buds are opening up so soon we will know for sure
Thnx @Davidlpf !

 

[Davidlpf]

Buds are opening up so soon we will know for sure
Thnx @Davidlpf !

You are welcome, but I don't have any doubt, that it is a Ulmus parvifolia var. nirekeyaki 100% sure. I bet mine's, if it isn't

 

[Cadillactaste]

@defra ...without the visual of the lighter I would have guessed the tree much larger. Nicely done with the direction.

 

[defra]

@defra ...without the visual of the lighter I would have guessed the tree much larger. Nicely done with the direction.

Thank you so it was actualy lighter!

 

[Cadillactaste]

Thank you so it was actualy lighter!

Good one Defra! ??

 

[defra]

You are welcome, but I don't have any doubt, that it is a Ulmus parvifolia var. nirekeyaki 100% sure. I bet mine's, if it isn't

You won !
Its not zelkova but i am still happy with the tree tough!

 

[AlainK]

Your Chinese elm is developping well.

I've got one that a Belgian friend gave me as a 2 mm cutting some years ago. He called it "Zelkova Nire", too, ha ha ha!...

I will post photos soon...

 

[defra]

@Davidlpf


This tree above is from a belgium hobbyist wich is in search of the cultivar of his ulmus he wonders if its the same as my little one

 

[Davidlpf]

@Davidlpf

This tree above is from a belgium hobbyist wich is in search of the cultivar of his ulmus he wonders if its the same as my little one

@defra I'm not sure, but I don't think that it be the same cultivar. Maybe an english elm, regarding the bark pattern. Any chance of a photo detail of the bark?, and, even more important, how big it is?, IMHO, is medium to big size, quite biggert that yours.

 

[defra]

@defra I'm not sure, but I don't think that it be the same cultivar. Maybe an english elm, regarding the bark pattern. Any chance of a photo detail of the bark?, and, even more important, how big it is?, IMHO, is medium to big size, quite biggert that yours.

It is a ulmus parvifolia and yes its a larger tree!
I will ask for a sharp detail picture and post it up when i get it

 

[defra]

@Davidlpf
Heres two pics

 

[Davidlpf]

Great bark, I haven't seen that grey scales before. I'm sorry but I'm afraid that I can't help with the identification.

 

[defra]

Great bark, I haven't seen that grey scales before. I'm sorry but I'm afraid that I can't help with the identification.

Ok thnx for the help anyway
Im looking at google and it looks allot like the "seiju" to me

 

[Fonz]

Ok thnx for the help anyway

Tom won't be pleased with that answer

 

[defra]

Tom won't be pleased with that answer

Guess not but was worth a try fonz !

 

[Davidlpf]

Im looking at google and it looks allot like the "seiju" to me

IMHO, It isn`t a seiju. Seiju has smaller leaves, shorter internodes, and a more corky bark when is old
I have one seiju, still very young, but clearly different leaves.

greetings

 

[baron]

I'm thinking Ulmus parvifolia 'Corticosa' (Cork Bark Chinese Elm).
Definately not a Zelkova.

This is a Zelkova Nire.

 

[AlainK]

This is a Zelkova Nire.

Once again, there is no such thing as a 'Zelkova nire"

From a (long) thread on IBC:

"What you have is cork bark Chinese elm, Ulmus parvifolia 'Cork Bark.' This is the registered cultivar name. You sometimes see it labeled "corticosa" or "suberosa," but those are invalid synonyms. With any mutation, different specimens may exhibit various expressions of the gene. It is still unmistakably 'Cork Bark.'
Forget "Nire." It just means elm."