You want your elms?

Seriously, thanks Al for the historical information. I am as big a nut for history as I am for bonsai. :)

Geez Si, you really don't want me to come huh:D:D:D Maybe I can meet you there.;)

Then I can I wear my new T-shirt:

Ian, nice shirt! I bet you got it cheap. :cool: It seems many have wised up since the election...
 

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Seriously, thanks Al for the historical information. I am as big a nut for history as I am for bonsai. :)



Ian, nice shirt! I bet you got it cheap. :cool: It seems many have wised up since the election...

Yeah, but in the spirit of politicians everywhere (conservative or liberal) "who really cares what the people think, now where is my money?":rolleyes:
 
The pre-bonsai material is not too bad, price-wise. You can find lots of long- to medium-term projects in 1 gallon and 2 gallon cans. (I stopped buying, since I got too many of those projects already). And the small bonsai are also reasonably priced. But the larger and more mature bonsai are too expensive for me as well. I remember once seing a crab apple bonsai for around $500. I thought I will low-ball them, and offered $250. They started laughing.....
It's a good thing that I didn't buy it, since this year I got much better crab apples at the House of Bonsai (thanks to Si), even cheaper than $250.

They also have some priceless California Juniper, some not for sale - although they could use some styling from one of the young masters. But I can't imagine anybody spending $10,000 for a half-refined California Juniper, in San Gabriel, these days.

But I still shop there for miscellaneous bonsai supplies - for instance, they supplied me with large bags of pumice (1cf) for the last 10 years, they had the best price ($6 a bag). Lately, the price went up to $11, not sure why so much. Also, that's where I buy my oak-leaf mulch (the only place that sells it), which is the best medium for growing beneficial fungi in bonsai soil. They have the best book collection as well (at least in the not so distant past). They also have a really good coarse peat-moss, which I use for my acid-loving plants.

The good thing is that they will never go out of business, since they have a very large customer base, and they have no rent to pay, since they own the place (I think they bought the place for $30,000 back then). Mr Ishii is a great guy to deal with, he is a great bonsai resource. I never understood why he is not involved in any bonsai organization or event. Probably, because running the business takes up all his time.
 
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Geez Si, you really don't want me to come huh:D:D:D Maybe I can meet you there.;)

Then I can I wear my new T-shirt:

That can't be your shirt. They don't make them your size.:D
But if you do have it, could you bring it? I need something good for a door mat.:D:D:D
 
Thanks Atilla, for that write up. Reminded me to get some of that leaf mold. That is indeed hard to find.
Si
 
Si, I'm gonna be camping this weekend. If you can wait till next week, I'll go with ya :)
Are you sure? OK, I will wait for you. Ian you want to come too? But next weekend might be good to check out the satsuki and camellia nursery in Alta Dena too. The azaleas are starting to bloom already I hear. I was going to check out that nursery (Nuccio's) later in May, but may be we can see both of them next weekend. I need a good satsuki and a camellia for my collection.
Si
 
Si, I keep checking back here for the photos and your offer to ship a tree or two. Anything ever come from the trip?
 
Hi Mac! Sorry I forgot all about you. I went on a really nice nursery tour of the Pasadena area just last Sunday, but by the time I made it to San Gabriel Nursery, my last stop, I had ran out of money. I didn't have time to snap pictures there either. It was closing time. They do have some pretty good material though, so I am planning to come back there real soon. Maybe this weekend, on Sunday, if I can get out after taking my wife out for brunch. They have a lot of good pre-bonsai cork elms and shimpakus at this time, for around 1-2 hundred bucks. That's my price range. I will find something you might like.
Si
 
Si, Thanks for making the effort. Looking forward to seeing what you can find.
Mac
 
So I finally went back to visit this nursery today. It was still pretty good. The prices were a bit higher than before, but not too bad. There were many quite expensive trees that were chained up. Pretty sad looking actually, but that's what they had to do to prevent thefts. The pre-bonsai materials were very plentiful. Here are some pics. Enjoy!
 

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Here are some pre-bonsai materials.
 

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San Gabriel Nursery

So I finally went back to visit this nursery today. It was still pretty good. The prices were a bit higher than before, but not too bad. There were many quite expensive trees that were chained up. Pretty sad looking actually, but that's what they had to do to prevent thefts. The pre-bonsai materials were very plentiful. Here are some pics. Enjoy!

hello Si
what is their price for the jap. black pine in pic #4 ?
 
Hi Art, that one pine did not have a price tag. There were a few others similar to that one, and they were marked at around 1-2K. It was not good anyway. The silhouette is conventional, but the trunk line is bad. They have other much larger and much better JBP, but the prices were very high, from 2 to 5K. Too much for my blood.
Si
 
Hi Bonhe, here are the few trees I bought there. The first is a cork elm that is 23 in. tall and cost $130. The second is an original Shimpaku (not grafted) that is 24 in. tall and cost $130. The third is a Nana juniper for $50. The prices for the pre-bonsai material were very reasonable.

Hi Mac, if you are interested in any of these, let me know. No rush. I will check this nursery out again soon, so don't worry if these are not good for you.
 

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Thanks Si. Nice specimens you got. Bonhe
 
Grrrrrrrrrr! Nice indeed, would have cost much more on this side of the rock. I keep saying how lucky you guys are out there.
 
Si,
Regarding the elm. It looks in the photo that the trunk gets larger just above where the first branches start and stays larger for a couple of inches. Is that just the photo or does it?

Mac
 
Hi Mac, yes there is a little bit of a reverse taper right there. It is not unusual for cork bark elms, or any cork trees for that matter, to have some reverse taper. I actually like that in cork bark trees. That's what set it apart from other trees. This one has really nice thick cork, almost a turtle back pattern. But unfortunately for you, I sold this tree already. A friend dropped by on Sunday and insisted on buying it. I will have to style it for him though. He is too timid to chop it back hard, which is what I will have to do for this tree. I will submit some more pics later.
The tall shimpaku is just sold too! An hour ago! Too cheap I think. The little nana juniper I already finished styling on Sunday. It was a quicky.
I will keep you in mind next time I swing by this nursery again. No rush.
Si
 
Saw a guest reading this old forum and ended up here. I don't see how those chains could protect anything the chain looks loose enough a theif could just unwrap the tree. Perhaps it's more a deterrent then anything for theifs. Sure is ugly though and i'd imagine it messes up the bark. Can't believe I never went to this place when I used to live in LA.
 
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