What would you do with this Japanese Quince...

Paradox said:
All systemics have been banned for homeowner use where I live. We cant even buy them any more.
I just douse my trees with sevin when I get aphids. They are gone in 24 hours and I usually don't see them again until the next year if at all.
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Really!? That sucks man... Not a LOT are available at the stores around me, but Lowe's and HD do carry a few. Can't you just order some online? I would have to go outside to get the name of the brand I use.. Cannot think of it right now..
 
Eric Group said:
Really!? That sucks man... Not a LOT are available at the stores around me, but Lowe's and HD do carry a few. Can't you just order some online? I would have to go outside to get the name of the brand I use.. Cannot think of it right now..
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Nope. They are listed as banned for sale so that means companies cant ship them in. It doesn't matter if the company is out of state. I know they have fined companies for shipping them in. It depends on the particular pesticide, some are banned for sale and some are outright banned for sale and use. Some are banned for homeowner use but if you are a certified pesticide applicator, you can use them. It really is nuts the different regulations we have here on pesticides.

I have problems with boxwood because of leaf miners. The only way to combat leaf miners in boxwood is with systemics so Im probably going to have to stop growing boxwood.

We like to call where I live "the land of 'no'"
 
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Jeez... That is just plain odd. I understand the idea behind that I guess.. Doesn't seem totally reasonable to completely outlaw them though!
 
Lots of reasons. One big one is the sole source aquafer that lies under Long Island. Many pesticides persist long enough in the ground water that they can potentially contaminate the water supply.
Some, like imadacloprid and acephate, is very very toxic to bees and farms/agriculture are a huge part of the economy on the east end of Long Island so that is why that particular systemic is banned.
 
Wow. You guys must have mean aphid mo fos. I just wash them off when I water each day - pesky ones I just crush between a thumb and forefinger.

An interesting aside is that aphids tap into a phloem tube - it has been proven by xrays. Because of this, plant scientists (and consequently we) know what substances are transported in the phloem (primarily sugars in water and some auxins). Somehow the aphid is carefully separated from its stylet and a drop or two of what then came out was chemically analyzed.
Some systemic grains are tossed on the soil. They dissolve and windup being loaded across the cell wall of a root hair cell and find it to the xylem where transpiration draws it up through 'a series of tubes' (xylem/wood) to the leaves where it somehow gets loaded into the phloem to go back down the tree, then killing those pesky aphids on the way toward the roots. Fascinating ...
 
I think everyone interested in doing flowering quince bonsai should read Colin Lewis' entries on quince in either Bonsai Survival Manual or in Bonsai: a care manual. He explains very clearly how gradually raising the quince, and exposing the main roots creates the base for an excellent clump-style tree. Flowering quince have their own culture. Check it out.
 
I'll look for it for sure. Thanks for the recommendation. *Ordering a used copy of BSM now.
 
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fredtruck said:
I think everyone interested in doing flowering quince bonsai should read Colin Lewis' entries on quince in either Bonsai Survival Manual or in Bonsai: a care manual. He explains very clearly how gradually raising the quince, and exposing the main roots creates the base for an excellent clump-style tree. Flowering quince have their own culture. Check it out.
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When I repotted another one of my quinces this spring, I noticed that the base is developing nicely. I keep it buried an inch lower for more development.
 
Yesterday, the one flower this toyo nishiki had was completely white. It was originally under a bunch of it's own leaves, but I uncovered it. Today I found it with a tinge of pink. Another thing that might be unique is that this flower came from brand new Spring growth.
 

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Roots on all my Toyo Nishiki have been vigorous. I decided to pull this one out to find that it's alive and well. I removed its pot, and the roots look like they were heading in the direction I wanted, which is more ramified roots. I thought the quince would like a more room for the roots to grow unrestricted for a long while so I slipped it into a larger pot. I should've done it in the first place, but I think I just didn't have a large pot at that time. Probably will just be lowering the soil line every few years when repotting.

That same time I repotted it, I defoliated it and wired. Did some more hard pruning on a couple of trunks. One I should've pruned shorter earlier, but I was too chicken. The other I pruned later because I needed its length for leverage. It needed to be bent away from another trunk that it was just up against. These two branches are towards the back of the tree where it's not filled in, but shall soon. The quince sprouts buds well.

Here it is today.
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Broke some branches while wiring, but no problem, they'll heal with time.
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sorce said:
Love it. My kid, The Big one w i th a second place yard contest trophy.
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Whatever, I'm totally keeping this Thread jacked for my own bragging purposes....

This one.....same one who's coach pulled Sorceress to the side to tell her he is gonna be the starting pitcher, that he's young, and has greatness yet to come...
Oh, he been Captain for months too!

Got this in the mail...
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Talk about win win!

Thanks Thumbless!

How's your Quince?

Sorce
 
Late last year, I looked at the branches, adjusted them, and did some pruning.

Didn't prune any roots. At first repotting, I buried the exposed roots deeper, but wonder sometimes if I should've buried them all the way. I guess I'll make a decision on that at next repotting in the fall. I want my roots to look mature with nice ramified roots, not like tubes. ☺

I'll get to eval the branch structure, and let you see how I'm doing at that time too. This spring, you can see that there are lots of growth with branches. Normally, I just have long whips. I'm tempted to not prune this year for flowers the next; just wire them in summer or fall.
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