Weeping maple help

I would not do anything with it... except plant in the yard as landscape tree.
1. it's in full leaf now, too late in the season to safely do root work.
2. it's a dissectum...not good for bonsai, general consensus.

Looks like a good price though...
 
That disectum at the Arboretum was a nice surprise. I had the same trouble getting decent photos of it due to that shaded corner.
 
Yeah I wish it would have been better lighting because this picture didn’t do it justice.
 
Just out of curiosity why do you not think it is bonsai material?

Jap maples, especially dissectums, tend to die if you so much as look at them funny. Don't let that dissuade you, though, I have several! Not as many as I did last year, though, as two of them have already died (and one was a palmatum). But I still have one dissectum and two palmatum.

On, and they're usually grafted and the grafts can look really bad.
 
That sucks they died on you, I’m going to try anyway but thanks for the heads up on that. Are they just more prone to disease or are they just picky?
 
Some are quite tough in the landscape. I think they don't respond as well to some of the aggressive techniques we typically use in bonsai though. The leaves are often fairly large too despite their feathery appearance.
 
Are they just more prone to disease or are they just picky?

I'm no expert but from what I've read apparently they're just not as robust, especially if growing on their own root stock. Some folks disagree but I've killed enough of them to think there's some truth to it. I've lost more jap maples than any other plant type.
 
Here's my photo I took of the same tree. Since you already bought yours, you may as well try. Worst case it may die on you but that could happen out in your landscape as well. At least you picked it up cheap and it looks healthy so far. If the leaf size won't reduce well, then aim to grow it as a larger specimen.

Acer dissectum.jpg
 
That sucks they died on you, I’m going to try anyway but thanks for the heads up on that. Are they just more prone to disease or are they just picky?

Hi Jcmmaple,
A couple of thoughts to pass your way. I have had no experience with red dissectums but there are a couple of green dissectums worth trying and they seem stronger on their own roots compared to the red ones. Seiryu is an upright green and the weeping green named Emerald Lace with lovely limey new growth and fantastic autumn reds, and smallish leaves.
Sorry for not really being on topic but the red ones (as you know) are grafted because of the weak roots thing. I am going to try a couple of red dissectums as cuttings in my next season to find out probably the same result.
Charles
 
I saw one of these at our last club show. It didn't look bad at all. It didn't seem to have the ramification or leaf reduction palmatum maples had but a nice tree all in all.
 
Thanks for all the tips, and advice. As Hyn Pattyy mentioned I will probably let it get tall just to even it all out, it’s just for my collection not a show piece.

Thanks Charles I will look into the green ones for the next project if he has some more good ones at that price. I’m going to pick it up Monday so I will have better pictures then, and who knows maybe more trees haha. What an addiction, I love maples. Do you guys have maples?
 
Do you guys have maples
I have elms and hawthorn for deciduous trees.
Japanese maples aren't cold hardy enough.
Native maples around here like red and Norway aren't really that good as bonsai.
I guess amur will work but I haven't found one to make me want it.
 
I'm no expert but from what I've read apparently they're just not as robust, especially if growing on their own root stock. Some folks disagree but I've killed enough of them to think there's some truth to it. I've lost more jap maples than any other plant type.

My understand is that they are grafted to keep them true to the named cultiver. That's not to say they are great on their own roots.
 
Rooting a cutting would accomplish the same thing. They are usually grafted into straight acer palmatum because they have the strongest root system.
 
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