undiscovered native US trees?

[Kanorin]

What is your rust control regimen? I had one a couple of years ago that was so riddled with nasty fungi that I just discarded it. I sprayed it weekly with Daconil, but that didn't seem to help. It's a shame, because it had a really nice root spread.

During the spring and early summer I prophylactically treat my hawthorns with systemics (I use the bayer 3 in 1 rose granules) plus spraying with Daconil maybe every other week. After some research, it seems like the kind of rust we most commonly get where I live is cedar quince rust. Could be different for other types.

 

[milehigh_7]

A native I am curious about after seeing a couple pretty sweet ones while hiking is Antelope Bitterbrush (Prushida Tridenta), which is in the Roseaceae family. Small leaves, gnarly trunks when older, nice flowers. Maybe kinda leggy. I can see some similarities to potentilla, also roseaceae, in the trunk and flowers. The little I have found as bonsai, specifically yamadori is they tend to have deep tap roots and likely difficult to collect successfully.


Here is an awesome one that really got me looking at them. In the spring I will check its viability to collect but likely leave this one until after I mess with some less impressive examples. Nothing for scale, but this was about 26" tall. Its hard to see but the taper and twist in the trunk makes an amazing informal upright already. Almost just seems like it would needs strengthened and thinned out.



Example of leaves, not peak season. Link below can show you flowers and fuller examples.


General info regarding using them in landscape

I had one of these several years ago. You are 100% correct they are wonderful and would just about be perfect if you could get them to live in pots.

 

[Potawatomi13]

Diospiros virginiana. Nao and I in complete agreement this SHOULD be hunted and Yamadori collected as it seems largely ignored and should be every bit as great as Princess persimmon. Also grows from root cuttings.

 

[thatdirtykid]

I had one of these several years ago. You are 100% correct they are wonderful and would just about be perfect if you could get them to live in pots.

I assume yours was yamadori? What was the root situation like?
The one I pictured for its age possibly could be an ideal candidate for collection. There is about 5" soil on top of granite there. If its tap root is in a crevasse and all the top soil came later in its life maybe it sort of ground layered itself. I am half tempted to collect some young ones this spring and see how they do a year or two before coming back to this one. No guarantees the horses, deer or some poor souls fire pit don't take it out first...

 

[Gabler]

Diospiros virginiana. Nao and I in complete agreement this SHOULD be hunted and Yamadori collected as it seems largely ignored and should be every bit as great as Princess persimmon. Also grows from root cuttings.

Can you show us some of your root cuttings? Do you have any pictures of the process?

 

[milehigh_7]

I assume yours was yamadori? What was the root situation like?
The one I pictured for its age possibly could be an ideal candidate for collection. There is about 5" soil on top of granite there. If its tap root is in a crevasse and all the top soil came later in its life maybe it sort of ground layered itself. I am half tempted to collect some young ones this spring and see how they do a year or two before coming back to this one. No guarantees the horses, deer or some poor souls fire pit don't take it out first...

I actually got mine from a native plant nursery. It was growing in almost pure sand. I really am not sure where I went wrong with it. The roots were quite long and not well-branched as I recall.

 

[Agr247]

I stumbled upon an unknown tree yesterday any help identifying “slim shady”!?

 

[Gabler]

I stumbled upon an unknown tree yesterday any help identifying “slim shady”!?

The growth habit reminds me of blackhaw viburnum, but those leaves clinging to the tree look like azalea leaves.