Thinking about transplanting pines today...

[Adair M]

Which is basically impossible as we all know, to give the trees in bonsai soil the same level of nutrients would mean daily fertilzing, which I'm definitely to poor for that crap
I personally like to put conifers into inorganic substrate as its easier to trasiton into a bonsai pot later on, and it's harder to replace long intrenodes with short ones lol but most of my deciduous in training LOVE them some organics and beef up much quicker.

Aaron

That is the benefit of using the "poo ball" type of fertilizer. A little fertilizer gets released every time you water.

 

[OrganicSeasonal]

Much respect to all. Wow, never new that about working the roots... my serious bonsai books are sitting in my mail box. heres my plan...
-read my books
-don't post until I read the books(or important info)
-leave those baby trees in their pots until early spring/spring

Thank you for the guidance.

 

[aml1014]

That is the benefit of using the "poo ball" type of fertilizer. A little fertilizer gets released every time you water.

The happy frog I use, I actually turn into the poo balls. I just use happy frog and slightly diluted fish emulsion, then I let it do its thing till its ready.

Aaron

 

[Cadillactaste]

So why not to wait until the proper time?
Do it right.

Caution to the wind...I'm having 8 trees that were field grown...removed/burlaped and planted this month. We're talking 6' Thuja species...but, it makes me pause. I just transplanted a Rose of Sharon that was in the way of the new trees to carry them to the waterfall for a nice line. Fall was always mentioned a great time to transplant my uncle always stated...as does the nursery guy and the neighbor. (Other than dogwood. Those should not be planted in the fall the nursery folk said.)

Mind you pine and thuja are not the same cultivar by any means...just curious. I can see no extreme bare rooting. But...this slip potting larger I can't see a major thing. Other than...if shipping stressed them to much. That said,I do not know pine what so ever. So I'm interested to see if they are more finicky of a tree.

Shoot last winter was so mild we relocated a rhododendron that was near the cottage we were adding a new foundation to along with an addition. It was on the side the addition was to go. It transplanted with no hiccups. Crazy...even bloomed this past spring. Doing quite well...(Not ideal but...we were going to lose it so we tried to save it.)

 

[OrganicSeasonal]

Okay I thought deeply(ouch). I've decided to carefully transfer into still small 1 gallon nursery containers. The reason being that they keep falling over(they'd never survive upcoming winds), and to retain more moisture. I have some leftover organic happy frog soil. I will pot up in spring, and like the other member said, possibly work a little on the roots. TO THEE GARDENING TABLE

 

[Cadillactaste]

Well...again I don't know a hill of beans on pine. But slip potting up and not touching the roots...waiting on verdict sounds plausible. Don't take my words to the bank...when I don't know the cultivar. I asked a question...hoping to educate myself.

 

[GrimLore]

Okay I thought deeply(ouch). I've decided to carefully transfer into still small 1 gallon nursery containers. The reason being that they keep falling over(they'd never survive upcoming winds), and to retain more moisture. I have some leftover organic happy frog soil. I will pot up in spring, and like the other member said, possibly work a little on the roots. TO THEE GARDENING TABLE

Your plan will work just fine. Many times, especially when growing, plants need to be slip potted. In your case it is for plant stability. There are a lot of good reasons and I think the most common is a pot breaking or cracking.

Grimmy

 

[twisted trees]

Morning, I was thinking about transplanting these Japanese black pines I bought from ebay today. I understand serious moves like this should be done in spring, but here in northern cali weather isn't so bad yet. I want them to grow bigger so I will transfer to pots a little bigger with a store bought organic potting soil/homemade compost mix. And yes I understand ground planting is better, but I'm in no hurry(I just purchased a mature Mikawa). Thank you for the guidance.

7 year old Japanese black pines

• OrganicSeasonal
• Nov 9, 2016

From cool guy on eBay.

Wow, I'm having a hard time seeing these as 7 year old trees...maybe 3-4. That said, there is no taper and long internodes. I'd chop them in half to get back budding next spring and not pot them until spring growth begins.

 

[tonyhoang]

the appropriate time, the trees are healthy then moving to pot ten things right, the rest is that you care for the health and vigor trees.

 

[OrganicSeasonal]

Yeah I figured they weren't 7 years old, he was also spotty on variety(listing said Japanese five needle black pine, then explaining they're jbp). Nevertheless they are nice baby trees. Thanks guys/gals.

 

[Anthony]

Organic,

you may find no deeper than 6 inches internally and a wider pot, than just a gallon pot works better.
We use porous earthenware, which can be ordered from our local potters [ these are just potter folk, not Art potters,
so the cost factor is very low. ]
Good Luck.
Good Day
Anthony