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Someone posted about folks not posting. Worse yet, due to football.
That is ridiculous.

Here's another Nana. The question mark NaNa. I got it because it has a nice root spread, and a bit of movement.20150923_052000.jpg

This was the 4th or 5th depot I've hit since they got the fall stock. Scored 2 at 3 for 6. About half from Vin's guy in Havana, Florida. Lol. The others from Park City, Oklahoma. Only one is a bit yellow but recovering, the others swell!

With such great health in this year's stock, I said F it with these last 2, and cut em hard. 20150923_052523.jpg

That one branch was over half the foilage. Damn. But I knew when I bought it I was cutting it, go path.

Reveals the ? shape that I am desperately trying to avoid.

I'd like to get the crown to half the height of here below, and nestle it in the arc, hiding the question mark.
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That'll leave me with a little taper and a 4-5inch height if I can crank the bend in a bit more.

To Avoid any confusion, it is Angel Soft. Let me describe its benefits.
It can be easily manipulated amongst foilage. It can safely hold parts aside while wiring others. And it serves as a reminder to keep the finer branches, the Angel Soft ones!

That part I left on for strength, it will go in x years.

Please advise!

Sorce
 
So this is the type of juniper i can get my hands on easy and was thinking about purchasing....now is there really any other style other then cascade you can do on these? i see they mainly all come wind swept or cascade as they are already naturally that way ?
 
MattE said:
So this is the type of juniper i can get my hands on easy and was thinking about purchasing....now is there really any other style other then cascade you can do on these? i see they mainly all come wind swept or cascade as they are already naturally that way ?
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In the world of bonsai there are basically three types of trees. There are those that really can only be made to conform to a few styles, there are those that are so flexible, like the Procumbens Nana, that can be made into almost any style you can imagine like a piece of clay, and there are those trees that are so uncooperative and fussy and ugly that they are best left alone.
 
ok thank you for your reply, i was worried that since the base of the nabari usually makes such a hard turn downward ( most the ones i have seen ) it would be hard to make anything other then a cascade/windswept.

Thank you again :)

P.S.
Would you say they could survive inside in the wintertime if properly taken care of ?
 
MattE said:
ok thank you for your reply, i was worried that since the base of the nabari usually makes such a hard turn downward ( most the ones i have seen ) it would be hard to make anything other then a cascade/windswept.

Thank you again :)

P.S.
Would you say they could survive inside in the wintertime if properly taken care of ?
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Why would you want to do that? Junipers are generally Temperate trees and need the outdoor environment to stay healthy. I am of the opinion it is easier to prepare a tree like this to endure a harsh winter than it is to keep one alive indoors during the winter.

An indoor environment usually weakens a temperate tree and will kill it for the most part. You might get away with it for a season or two but it will catch up with you as the tree weakens a little every winter.
 
thats why i asked if they can survive -45 C then i wold love to leave it outside , but i have an apartment, no shed, and if it were in a shallow bowl i cant see it surviving , it would surely freeze?
i seen a guy online who would mist his everyday had it on a humidity tray and in a window with light. Just trying to get my options opened ..we had a mild winter this season but they can get very cold sometimes
 
MattE said:
Would you say they could survive inside in the wintertime if properly taken care of ?
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I have mine in a couple Pepsi crates.
You could easily keep half a dozen in an underbed storage box and straw mulch them in. Keep holes in the bottom. One man moveable....bingo.

Sorce
 
Awesome thanks Sorce, i have still been doing research. its hard in my area, couldnt imagine living in Arizona or some other warm area where you have the option of so many varieties all year long !
 
MattE said:
So this is the type of juniper i can get my hands on easy and was thinking about purchasing....now is there really any other style other then cascade you can do on these? i see they mainly all come wind swept or cascade as they are already naturally that way ?
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look closely at the update photo and tell me Sorce is going for a cascade or windswept style ? the picture in itself answers your question.

Mr. Wood explains it perfectly, although I do find some branches on large nanas are difficult to bend, they snap quite easily. Other branches are supple enough to bend in any desired way. These branches usually have weird knobbly stuff and rough bark, where the supple branches have smooth bark and no knobbly protrusions

best regards
herman
 
YukiShiro said:
look closely at the update photo and tell me Sorce is going for a cascade or windswept style ? the picture in itself answers your question.

Mr. Wood explains it perfectly, although I do find some branches on large nanas are difficult to bend, they snap quite easily. Other branches are supple enough to bend in any desired way. These branches usually have weird knobbly stuff and rough bark, where the supple branches have smooth bark and no knobbly protrusions

best regards
herman
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I seen the pictures i was asking because i couldnt tell what style those others were , informal upright ?
Thank you for your knowledge it is greatly appreciated
 
MattE said:
thats why i asked if they can survive -45 C then i wold love to leave it outside , but i have an apartment, no shed, and if it were in a shallow bowl i cant see it surviving , it would surely freeze?
i seen a guy online who would mist his everyday had it on a humidity tray and in a window with light. Just trying to get my options opened ..we had a mild winter this season but they can get very cold sometimes
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You can overwinter them indoors, just make sure it gets enough ambient light and fresh air, no humidity tray needed, water when soil is dry an inch underneath the surface. also get it out only after the last hard freeze.

it's much warmer where I'm at than there by you, but when I started out on my bonsai journey, my brother gifted me a Chinese juniper and I always overwintered it inside for fear of it dying from the cold. lol it can take more cold than ZA can give it though, it has been hibernating outside for the last 12 years

best regards
Herman
 
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