Sumo Shohin Willow Leaf Ficus

[A Random User]

I totally agree with that. The soil the Meehan's are using is way too water retentive, but until I can source some aged bark, it's all I've got.

I hate to point out the obvious... But, if you have a tree in a soil that is way too water
retentive, you water less and less often.

 

[Redwood Ryan]

Do you have a soil sifter/screen set? Maybe you could sift the Meehan's soil to get the larger particles and mix it with pumice.

Great point. I never thought of that. I will definitely do that.

I hate to point out the obvious... But, if you have a tree in a soil that is way too water
retentive, you water less and less often.

...I was well aware...?

 

[A Random User]

.I was well aware...?

If you were aware of this, why then did you over water ???
Do you not like your trees ???

 

[Redwood Ryan]

If you were aware of this, why then did you over water ???
Do you not like your trees ???

I didn't overwater. You're making assumptions.

 

[A Random User]

I didn't overwater. You're making assumptions.

This is getting better by the moment...
Did someone else water your plants and over water them ???

 

[Redwood Ryan]

This is getting better by the moment...
Did someone else water your plants and over water them ???

You ignorant troll. I'm not going to feed you.

You said you came to this forum to talk bonsai. Now stop trying to start fires and do something helpful to this forum for a change.

 

[A Random User]

You ignorant troll. I'm not going to feed you.

You said you came to this forum to talk bonsai. Now stop trying to start fires and do something helpful to this forum for a change.

I am not ignorant nor am I trolling...
You just have a problem it seems listening to the obvious.
You have a rotted out dead plant, that you can put your finger through,
in a soil that you say retains to much moisture. I stated that if you have
a soil that retains to much moisture, that you need to water less and less
often. You say you know this... but clearly you do not seeing that you have
a dead plant as a result of over watering it.

I have plenty of plants in regular non bonsai soil that can retain to much water
as well if I over water them as well. But. I do not, because I understand the type
of soil that they are in, and so I have no dead plants as a result of it.

The soil sadly is not the problem, It is the caretaker and their error.

As far as your starting fire BS, and doing something helpful... If you are going to
try and accuse me of doing something that I am not, simply by responding to your
thread... then perhaps it is you who are doing what you are accusing me of doing.

When you are ready to discuss how to properly water a Bonsai tree, without getting
upset, let me know.
Thanks.

 

[Redwood Ryan]

I am not ignorant nor am I trolling...
You just have a problem it seems listening to the obvious.
You have a rotted out dead plant, that you can put your finger through,
in a soil that you say retains to much moisture. I stated that if you have
a soil that retains to much moisture, that you need to water less and less
often. You say you know this... but clearly you do not seeing that you have
a dead plant as a result of over watering it.

I have plenty of plants in regular non bonsai soil that can retain to much water
as well if I over water them as well. But. I do not, because I understand the type
of soil that they are in, and so I have no dead plants as a result of it.

The soil sadly is not the problem, It is the caretaker and their error.

As far as your starting fire BS, and doing something helpful... If you are going to
try and accuse me of doing something that I am not, simply by responding to your
thread... then perhaps it is you who are doing what you are accusing me of doing.

When you are ready to discuss how to properly water a Bonsai tree, without getting
upset, let me know.
Thanks.

Listening to the obvious?


Shut the hell up before you start making assumptions.

Believe it or not, we get rain here in Virginia. It rained for the past 4 days, and this trees soil did not drain. I did not water this tree. It had no leaves, I knew better.

You did nothing helpful in this thread, nor any thread you post in. You get upset with people who disagree with you, and you seek to prove them wrong. You
also don't
know
how to use
a
keyboard.

Stop trying to make "the caretaker" the problem, when this wasn't my fault. This is the first time in 5 years of using this soil that this has ever happened. Seems to me that if it was my issue that this would be happening more often.

Now please, grow up, and do us all a favor and only comment on threads if your head isn't up your ass.

 

[A Random User]

Side note...
In all actuality ficus although they do not prefer to stay in moist
soil, can actually survive and put up with quite a bit of it.
In fact, was it not you that was saying that you actually root
cuttings in just water...

So, the damage done to the tree here is either the result of it just
sitting in a tub of water, or one not totally taking into account what
a tree such as this properly needs to survive... and thus it is a result
of prolonged exposure.

More than likely it is the latter... I suspect it has a lot to do with you
having them in a bubble with a lot of humidity, and water, without
a proper drying out process...

 

[A Random User]

Listening to the obvious?


Shut the hell up before you start making assumptions.

Believe it or not, we get rain here in Virginia. It rained for the past 4 days, and this trees soil did not drain. I did not water this tree. It had no leaves, I knew better.

You did nothing helpful in this thread, nor any thread you post in. You get upset with people who disagree with you, and you seek to prove them wrong. You
also don't
know
how to use
a
keyboard.

Stop trying to make "the caretaker" the problem, when this wasn't my fault. This is the first time in 5 years of using this soil that this has ever happened. Seems to me that if it was my issue that this would be happening more often.

Now please, grow up, and do us all a favor and only comment on threads if your head isn't up your ass.

I am not really quite sure why you are getting so worked up and upset over nothing ?
Also, do you honestly feel it is appropriate to call people names... I don't think that I recall
in any of the Bonsai books I have ever read, that cussing helps one to achieve a better
bonsai and since this is why we all have come here for, to improve our Bonsai skills...
I asked that you please instead channel you feelings in a more positive way. I mean,
can't we all just get along ?

Getting back to my side note... If you used some of the hot air you are currently venting
and aimed it towards your plants, it might help dry them out.

 

[Redwood Ryan]

I asked that you please instead channel you feelings in a more positive way. I mean,
can't we all just get along ?

Getting back to my side note... If you used some of the hot air you are currently venting
and aimed it towards your plants, it might help dry them out.

These statements are so ridiculously hypocritical. Congratulations, you win
the immaturity
war.

 

[A Random User]

These statements are so ridiculously hypocritical. Congratulations, you win
the immaturity
war.

Nope, no hypocritical statements at all... If you can't channel you feelings in a more
positive way. How do you expect us all to just get along ?

As for my statement, that If you used some of the hot air you are currently venting
and aimed it towards your plants, it might help dry them out... I think this is actually
true. If you are going to insist on overwatering, you will need some way of drying the
plants out. A soil change as some of the others have said could help... Perhaps more
movement and circulation of air inside those bubbles is needed as well. Or, even more
light.... All of which cost more money, where as reducing water actually saves money.

 

[Redwood Ryan]

Nope, no hypocritical statements at all... If you can't channel you feelings in a more
positive way. How do you expect us all to just get along ?

As for my statement, that If you used some of the hot air you are currently venting
and aimed it towards your plants, it might help dry them out... I think this is actually
true. If you are going to insist on overwatering, you will need some way of drying the
plants out. A soil change as some of the others have said could help... Perhaps more
movement and circulation of air inside those bubbles is needed as well. Or, even more
light.... All of which cost more money, where as reducing water actually saves money.

Boy, you sure have to have the last word, even if it's wrong, don't you? For the 100th time, I did not overwater this tree. I know how to water a tree, I've been in this hobby long enough.

Stop commenting if you're just going to keep blaming me. Go be an ass somewhere else.

 

[A Random User]

Boy, you sure have to have the last word, even if it's wrong, don't you? For the 100th time, I did not overwater this tree. I know how to water a tree, I've been in this hobby long enough.

Stop commenting if you're just going to keep blaming me. Go be an ass somewhere else.

See... now we are back to square one. If you didn't overwater your tree, then how did
it rot ??? It didn't rot from you under-watering it.

 

[Redwood Ryan]

See... now we are back to square one. If you didn't overwater your tree, then how did
it rot ??? It didn't rot from you under-watering it.

As I stated earlier, the 4 day rain we got.

 

[thams]

Do you have a soil sifter/screen set? Maybe you could sift the Meehan's soil to get the larger particles and mix it with pumice.

I think this is part of the problem with Meehan's mix. I find there are always a ton of fines -- especially in the bottom of the bag. As a result over time, the fines sink to the bottom of the pot and the roots end up sitting in soggy bark particles. I find that the roots just stop growing because they don't have to search out any sources of water. I'm not trying to say it's a bad soil choice, but I think there are better out there. I reach for it because it's relatively cheap and easy to get locally. That said, I might mail order a more open mix to see how my trees respond. I have a feeling that spending a few extra bucks on good soil will pay off in the end.

 

[carp]

This Salicaria has no leaves, hasn't been repotted in 10 years, and is in 100% organic soil. It is watered daily from an overhead sprinkler for an hour; and here in Florida it has rained everyday for the last month. Idk what your problem is besides stress related issues from being grown in a controlled environment and moving it to an uncontrolled environment. But I can tell you for a fact that 4 days of rain would not rot and kill a Ficus Salicaria; let alone able to push a finger through it. But what do I know about growing tropicals? I was told that defoliating shouldn't be down unless its for a show because you will stress the tree and it will die; but I defoliate at least 2-4 times a year. I thought that if you didn't repot a tree every 2-3 years it would root rot and die? Hmmmm......What do I know?

 

[Redwood Ryan]

This Salicaria has no leaves, hasn't been repotted in 10 years, and is in 100% organic soil. It is watered daily from an overhead sprinkler for an hour; and here in Florida it has rained everyday for the last month. Idk what your problem is besides stress related issues from being grown in a controlled environment and moving it to an uncontrolled environment. But I can tell you for a fact that 4 days of rain would not rot and kill a Ficus Salicaria; let alone able to push a finger through it.

Congratulations, but I hardly ever watered this tree. That I can guarantee you. I know how to water a tree. Why is everyone so bent on proving me wrong? Get over your huge egos and let me be. I'm tired of being harassed by the big headed egotistical growers on this forum. Get over yourselves.

 

[carp]

I'm seriously confused, because I was under the impression that the tree died from too much water, and now you said you hardly watered it? I'm just simply saying that regardless of the soil you had it in, 4 days of rain won't turn it to mush. Did you check for fungus? Salicaria is very succeptible to fungus. What about bore worms? I have a huge problem with them and have to use a systemic as part of a regular regiment on all of my trees. Rotting, the way you described, takes a very long time to happen.

 

[Redwood Ryan]

I'm seriously confused, because I was under the impression that the tree died from too much water, and now you said you hardly watered it? I'm just simply saying that regardless of the soil you had it in, 4 days of rain won't turn it to mush. Did you check for fungus? Salicaria is very succeptible to fungus. What about bore worms? I have a huge problem with them and have to use a systemic as part of a regular regiment on all of my trees. Rotting, the way you described, takes a very long time to happen.

I personally didn't water it when it was in this leafless state. WHY are you so certain on proving me wrong? I know what I'm doing, leave me alone and do something helpful to the world.