Styling advice for two junipers

[h4nami]

Hello everyone

I've had these threes for like a year but I'm still trying to decide what to do with them

So I think it's a good time to get for ideas from the community and more experienced people, I'd really appreciate any advice

Thank you!

(I started working with the second tree as a cascade style, but haven't touched or removed the rest of the big branches to wait for ideas)

 

[iant]

Just to be clear, the first 3 pictures are one tree, and the 2nd two pictures are another tree?
Ian

 

[h4nami]

Just to be clear, the first 3 pictures are one tree, and the 2nd two pictures are another tree?
Ian

Yes, sorry for the confusion

This is the first tree

 

[h4nami]

Second tree

 

[Shibui]

Just remember anyone online can only see the trees in 2D so some suggestions may not be the best advice. Some suggestions may not even work with the real tree.

Your start on the cascade looks good. If you want a cascade tree you should follow through with the plan. No need for anyone to hold your hand.
My suggestions for that would be to NOT keep any apex. Cascade apex often gets in the way of good cascade style. I would reduce the 2 unwired branches to short jins,
Also some real bends in the main cascade trunk. You've wired it but I can't see any decent bends. Wiring does not make bonsai. Wiring is just used to make the bends that make bonsai look realistic so bend that trunk.

I can't see enough of the other trunk - way too many branches in the way. Mostly these commercial procumbens can be made into any shape you want. First step is to find the rots to check what nebari you have. That may influence what angle your trunk will be which will often suggest some styles rather than others.
After that, look for taper and bends in the trunk. That may mean chopping much of the current trunk and using side branches as a new trunk line.