Looks like you started two threads with the same name. Perhaps
@Bonsai Nut can combine these as this is very confusing.
Also it is important for us, while trying to help you, to know your approximate location and USDA Plant Cold Hardiness Zone so we can better inform you. To do so, double tap your icon atop the page, select account details,, scroll down, enter these data and save.
There are some good comments on each thread. As someone gifted 20+ heritage trees 7 years ago, first and foremost love the “getting the trees strong and robust” idea. It is the key to doing everything else. This will take about a year or two of good care if you were in our neck of the woods. This one thing will help you get a better picture of the actual health of the trees.
Not sure if anyone mentioned this… it’s likely both trees need repotting. This would be a really good starting point on getting the trees healthy and robust if it is needed. Would get someone knowledgeable to help assist with media and the repotting procedure.
Styling: Personally if you are close to a local club, would be inclined to recommend you join same and take these trees to a workshop once they are healthy and robust. Because these are the perfect trees for a pro to help you get started. Each has good bones and I would not want to muck around without expert on the scene guidance.
Cheers
DSD sends
