Please advise on organic fert

[MichaelS]

If you were countering someone saying that organic fertilizer doesn't work maybe. The post your responded to made a number of claims about the difference between organic and synthetic fertilizer. Perhaps that tree would have grown seven feet with synthetics.

AKA no.

Please familiarize yourself with exactly what I was replying to.

Quote.... ''If you're trying to develop a tree using only "organic" ferts, you will have very very slow going''.....Wrong.
The speed of growth is related to the concentration of N (mainly) available to the roots. Not where it comes from.

Quote.... ''If you're using organic ferts with inorganic soil, you're probably a masochist ''....Wrong. You will feel no pain using organic fertilizers unless you don't really know what the hell you're doing.

Quote......''That breakdown depends on soil organisms. With no organic compound in the soil, the process takes longer and is more dilute-since most of the stuff runs out the bottom of your pot with the relative flood of water necessary with inorganic soils''......Wrong. It takes no longer in inorganic media to for the breakdown and mineralization of organic fertilizer. All that is required is heat and water. Microbes are omnipresent and reproduce exponentially, you don't need them to be present in the media. The ''dilution'' of the fertilizer is within the control of the user.

Cheers.

 

[erich_raudebaugh]

I like organic fertilizers because you can't really over fertilize. Need a huge amount for Japanese black pines before decandling? Just load them up! Also they are super easy to control. Fish fertilizer is available immediately and is great early in the season. I use biogold plus Dr. Earth in tea bags, for young plants I dump quite a bit of organic granules all season. Seaweed does seem to help a bit once or twice a year, there are chemicals in it that are bioidentical to plant hormones so it can stimulate growth.

 

[cmeg1]

I was told if you like someones trees………. do what they do!!!

BVF ,if I’m not mistaken ,has always used organics and his results are documented in some of the longest running threads on the forum

I would just check his website though……. Can search at the bottom of his pages.

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[Leprous Garden]

Please familiarize yourself with exactly what I was replying to.

Quote.... ''If you're trying to develop a tree using only "organic" ferts, you will have very very slow going''.....Wrong.
The speed of growth is related to the concentration of N (mainly) available to the roots. Not where it comes from.

Quote.... ''If you're using organic ferts with inorganic soil, you're probably a masochist ''....Wrong. You will feel no pain using organic fertilizers unless you don't really know what the hell you're doing.

Quote......''That breakdown depends on soil organisms. With no organic compound in the soil, the process takes longer and is more dilute-since most of the stuff runs out the bottom of your pot with the relative flood of water necessary with inorganic soils''......Wrong. It takes no longer in inorganic media to for the breakdown and mineralization of organic fertilizer. All that is required is heat and water. Microbes are omnipresent and reproduce exponentially, you don't need them to be present in the media. The ''dilution'' of the fertilizer is within the control of the user.

Cheers.

See but why did you make two useless snarky posts before this one which at least actually has some ideas in it? That's all I wanted.