Pines that don’t require winter dormancy

I really applaud the idea of looking at native pines. Pinus radiata has some track record as being good for bonsai. Or at least good enough to occasionally show up in California bonsai shows. Looking into the Mexican pines is a good idea. Pay attention to elevation, you want species of pine that come from low elevations. Wikipedia's list of pine species is your friend. Take time to read the species pages. Forget mugo, it is a mountain pine, and will never be anything other than marginal in LA. You need growth that is better than marginal to do well with bonsai.

 
I’ve narrowed it down to the following, some of which might not be ideal for bonsai, but I’ll have to learn that the hard way:

Allepo
Chihuahua White
Huangshan
Japanese Black
Knobcone
Monterey
Mugo
Stone
Torrey
 
I have some JBP in São Paulo, zone 11. They are happy.
Many growers in Brazil have grown them successfully.
 
I’ve narrowed it down to the following, some of which might not be ideal for bonsai, but I’ll have to learn that the hard way:

Allepo
Chihuahua White
Huangshan
Japanese Black
Knobcone
Monterey
Mugo
Stone
Torrey
Check out the Torrey pine first before you buy. I know they are endangered and they are trying to spread them around, but they have extremely long and thick needles. Not sure how suitable they'd be for bonsai culture.

Go to a native California nursery like Tree of Life in San Juan Cap. They'll be able to point you in the right direction when it comes to natives.
 
Check out the Torrey pine first before you buy. I know they are endangered and they are trying to spread them around, but they have extremely long and thick needles. Not sure how suitable they'd be for bonsai culture.

Go to a native California nursery like Tree of Life in San Juan Cap. They'll be able to point you in the right direction when it comes to natives.
Too late. I bought a 1-2 year old Torrey seedling that seems to be struggling a bit in it’s new colander. But yes, long needles so it might not be suitable. The Torrey needle length seems to be similar to the two Ponderosa seedlings I also bought. In terms of choosing good trees for future bonsai I’m probably making all kinds of beginner mistakes, but the two Ponderosa seedlings couldn’t be healthier.

Thanks for the Tree of Life recommendation. I’ll check it out.
 
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