Pine tree I.D.

[discusmike]

Found a two needle pine growing on a fast food restaurant chains property, it looked like a Japanese two needle pine, I took a few pine cones for seeds was wondering if anyone could identify from cones?

 

[discusmike]

Could be Nigra? Not sure if that’s a common tree used in the nursery trade

 

[Paradox]

Could be any number of species.
A lot of the 2 needle pines have similar looking cones

 

[Srt8madness]

lol looks like a pine cone

 

[discusmike]

the parent tree looked like jap black pine with similar needle length and deep green color, did not have a ruler to measure length

 

[Cruiser]

Without more diagnostic criteria, you won’t get a definitive answer.
If you return to the area and it doesn’t look too weird, take a twig sample and some close up photos of the buds, needles, and bark. A full tree picture can help too.

 

[Cruiser]

Without more diagnostic criteria, you won’t get a definitive answer.
If you return to the area and it doesn’t look too weird, take a twig sample and some close up photos of the buds, needles, and bark. A full tree picture can help too.

Without more to go on, I’d agree with Pinus nigra. Perhaps resinosa.

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

The trait of importance on the cone is NO spine on the central umbo, that bump in the center of the scale. No teeth on the scale margins. Now YOU have to do the tedious work of paging through eFloras and reading botanical descriptions. Or you can wait to see if you get lucky. But most of what you need to ID the pine is in the photo. A flora is a collection of official botanical descriptions gathered in one place. For example "Trees of North America" A flora can be organized around a genus name, a location or a habitat, "Flora of the Cloud Forests of the Andes".

Arbor Day tree guide, probably easiest to use - https://www.arborday.org/trees/whattree/

If you prefer to read in Spanish language - https://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/media/fact-pages/flora-mesoamericana

In case your tree is from Europe - https://gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org/simple/

Flora of North America entries

Pinus resinosa in Flora of North America @ efloras.org

www.efloras.org

Pinus banksiana in Flora of North America @ efloras.org

www.efloras.org

 

[Mike Westervelt]

Cone looks like Scotts pine, what does the bark look like?

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

@discusmike - was the bark on the trunk think reddish flakey plates? Or hard, gray, brown or black alligator pattern? Firmly attached bark or loose?

Pinus resinosa was one possibility, but needs reddish thin plated bark that flakes off. Pinus banksiana except cones usually twist. JBP is a possible fit.


Missouri Botanic Garden has a page of links

MBG: Research: All Databases

www.mobot.org

And this is a world wide database which would include pines not native to North America

Identify, explore and share your observations of wild plants

Pl@ntNet is a tool to help to identify plants with pictures.

identify.plantnet.org

 

[discusmike]

The tree was planted when the building was constructed, not a wild tree, tree was short compared to local pines with some zig zagging to trunk n branches unlike my local pines with straight tall trunks and branches, wish I would have took photos

 

[BonsaiNaga13]

Should have photographed the candles. I collected a few dozen jbp cones this year an they look jbp but no guarantees. I recommend goin back for more pine cones... and some pics while you're there lol

 

[Mike Westervelt]

The tree was planted when the building was constructed, not a wild tree, tree was short compared to local pines with some zig zagging to trunk n branches unlike my local pines with straight tall trunks and branches, wish I would have took photos

That sounds like Mugo