Parsoni juniper- carving suggestions?
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I don't think the shari and jins are bad, I personally would just snap
off the pointy ends with a pair of pliers.
As far as the tree and styling... This juniper of mine started off as a very
similar piece of material.
So, some bending to compact the tree in my opinion, would be needed.
Or, in my tree's case, some breaking and resetting...
off the pointy ends with a pair of pliers.
As far as the tree and styling... This juniper of mine started off as a very
similar piece of material.
So, some bending to compact the tree in my opinion, would be needed.
Or, in my tree's case, some breaking and resetting...
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fourteener
Omono
Sawgrass is right, just breaking off the tips of the deadwood would help. Also right about compacting the tree. Long stretches of straight make an image become boring pretty quick. Getting some curve in the second section and getting the foliage to fight back towards the base of the trunk would make this tree have more visual interest in as compacted a space as possible.
bonsairxmd
Shohin
Thanks to both for the great advice. I'll wire the main branch to a more downward position tonight and snip the ends of the jins.
bonsairxmd
Shohin
Pot
What do you think of the shape, size, and style of the pot I have in mind? The trunk diameter is 3" at the base and 1.5 inch in the middle. Tree is 17" tall. Thanks!
What do you think of the shape, size, and style of the pot I have in mind? The trunk diameter is 3" at the base and 1.5 inch in the middle. Tree is 17" tall. Thanks!
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Shohin
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fourteener
Omono
So you're on the right track. For me, the one section that needs some help is the straight shot from point you used to wire the branch down going left to the next piece of Jin. It's too long, too straight. You can diminish that with changing your front. Picture three in your first post...see how diminished that length is visually. You could play with a front that is a little different. You could also find two anchor points and crank that stretch into a curve that shortens it. You could carve out some of the wood to weaken it, then bend it and set it. There are a lot of techniques to make that happen and if you did it would really step up the presentation of this tree.
You can also see the future with that middle branch becoming an apex, left branch short but present, and right branch reaching back to get balanced!
You can also see the future with that middle branch becoming an apex, left branch short but present, and right branch reaching back to get balanced!
bonsairxmd
Shohin
Great advice. Thanks. I'll post a picture with different branches circled with different colors in a little bit so I am sure of which one you are referring to for the new apex and other ones
What do you think if I made a long spiral Shari over the next few years on the long straight section you are referring to in order to alter the perception of a long straight boring section?
fourteener
Omono
The white vein might make it even worse visually. You eyes are attracted to the lightest part of any composition
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Shohin
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Shohin
fourteener
Omono
1. If you get the Jin taken care of at the base with the lime sulpher treatment, it will have the positive effect of drawing the eye to that point. As much as Bonsai is about designing something beautiful, that can be about disguising/ minimizing problems.
2. First things first. If you want to do anything about that bend I would leave all of the foliage up on top. The more healing flow that can come from a good amount of foliage the better. But for the future red: left, blue: apex, green: back branch/ maybe future apex, purple: fighting back to center.
It is a case of keeping your options open and having a good amount of foliage to make this less traumatic.
3. Moving ahead because I see you posted another front angle. Perfect example of how you can overcome a visual problem with a little rotation. Except now the next section of trunk needs a little movement. But it's much smaller and easier to move. Also the Jin poking right at the viewer needs to be altered, but that's pretty easy.
Get your trunk line set, then worry about the foliage. It's basically in the right area.
Trunk line, branch placement, ramification. That's the order of development. It's coming!
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fourteener
Omono
Your getting close to a pretty dramatic image here. Wiring up that top could be pretty cool. The people good at doing virtuals could sketch something pretty nice.
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sorce
Nonsense Rascal
You could use those to left jins as anchors for a wire to pull them together. ( red pic)
That could bring the whole foliage mass in and down, more compact.
Except I do not see the left jin anymore? (New pic)
Sorce
That could bring the whole foliage mass in and down, more compact.
Except I do not see the left jin anymore? (New pic)
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sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Oh I see it now! Angle changed a lot!
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bonsairxmd
Shohin
I had to slightly break the branch to get it to the current position (fingers crossed) and don't want to bend it anymore right now.
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Did the break occur in the crotch of your bottom left branch ???
If so, this will make bending this branch a little more difficult.
I think you now need one more bend in the straight section right above
the second jin on the left. I would bend the whole trunk at this point
back in towards your main trunk. You can come straight back, or perhaps
back and down.
If so, this will make bending this branch a little more difficult.
I think you now need one more bend in the straight section right above
the second jin on the left. I would bend the whole trunk at this point
back in towards your main trunk. You can come straight back, or perhaps
back and down.
MidMichBonsai
Shohin
I think the answer to your questions really comes down to how confident/experienced you are with bending. Ideally I like picture 1 as the front but I agree with fourteener, I think the straight section needs a significant bend. If you could fold that section back over the pot/trunk I think it would bring balance to the tree and compact it significantly.
The bend wouldn't and maybe shouldn't be straight back on itself but rather a rotational twist coming forward. You would likely need to insert some rebar and recruit a 2nd set of hands to get the necessary leverage. By doing this, the fibers of the tree can hold together better by rotating while still moving toward the image that you want.
If you are uncomfortable with this technique, I think you have 2 options:
1. Take it to a class where a pro can aid you in the work
2. Rotate it to picture 3 like fourteener suggested. From this angle the trunk and movement are still quite visible and you would have a very nice compact image with some bending of the foliage on top.
Best of luck...keep us posted!
The bend wouldn't and maybe shouldn't be straight back on itself but rather a rotational twist coming forward. You would likely need to insert some rebar and recruit a 2nd set of hands to get the necessary leverage. By doing this, the fibers of the tree can hold together better by rotating while still moving toward the image that you want.
If you are uncomfortable with this technique, I think you have 2 options:
1. Take it to a class where a pro can aid you in the work
2. Rotate it to picture 3 like fourteener suggested. From this angle the trunk and movement are still quite visible and you would have a very nice compact image with some bending of the foliage on top.
Best of luck...keep us posted!
