Orange Jasmine

[f1pt4]

I purchased this Orange Jasmine/Murraya Panicata with the idea of taking clippings of it for a forest and/or raft, and using the main trunk for a formal upright or Literati.

It seems to grow very vigorously as there's back budding all over mature/hardened branching and the trunk. So I think I can clip it successfully without causing dieback.
Airlayering or clippings?

The plan is to over winter it with the rest of my tropicals under lights, possibly with a humidity dome.

It was repotted supposably in the spring at the nursery. It's sitting in very wet mostly organic soil.

All of my other tropicals sit in mostly inorganic soil.

After cleaning off moss off the trunk to take a look at the shape of the roots I noticed a grey clay in the soil. That can't be good. So I did some research and it seems they like clay in the soil? That sounds peculiar to me, and I wonder if putting it into a akadama/lava or akadama/growstone mix wouldn't be better? Even though it was repotted in the spring can I repot it in one of the above two mixes without causing damage now? Should I?

I have no experience with this species, but I really like the trunk, leaf size and growth rate. I plan on training it mostly through clip and grow.

Any suggestions and feedback is welcome.

Thanks.
Mike

 

[Mellow Mullet]

Just saw this. I don't have an Orange Jasmine, but have always wanted one. The soil in your pot looks like it is old and stays very wet. It is probably too late to repot, but definitely repot next spring. you can improve the drainage temporarily by taking a chopstick and inserting it through the soil, down to the bottom of the pot and working it in a circular motion until you create a nickel (US$) size hole. Backfill the hole with good bonsai soil. Do this six or eight times all over the surface of the pot.

John

 

[Ironbeaver]

Can I ask where you got it? I've been wanting one of these to try. If you do manage to get any cuttings or layerings off it, I'd be willing to buy/trade. How wide is the trunk at the base?

 

[f1pt4]

Just saw this. I don't have an Orange Jasmine, but have always wanted one. The soil in your pot looks like it is old and stays very wet. It is probably too late to repot, but definitely repot next spring. you can improve the drainage temporarily by taking a chopstick and inserting it through the soil, down to the bottom of the pot and working it in a circular motion until you create a nickel (US$) size hole. Backfill the hole with good bonsai soil. Do this six or eight times all over the surface of the pot.

John

Great idea John! You think a CDN$ Nickle wouldn't cut it?? J/k

Imma do that today. Yeah I was skepitical in terms of repotting it this year. Just gonna treat it for bugs and make those soil holes!

Cheers.

 

[f1pt4]

Can I ask where you got it? I've been wanting one of these to try. If you do manage to get any cuttings or layerings off it, I'd be willing to buy/trade. How wide is the trunk at the base?

Got it from Kim's. Ya no worries man. We'll talk in person at the September meeting. Hopefully I'll have some rooted by then!

 

[f1pt4]

Got it from Kim's. Ya no worries man. We'll talk in person at the September meeting. Hopefully I'll have some rooted by then!

And forgot to mention. Base is about 1". Flare about 1 3/4"

 

[Mellow Mullet]

Great idea John! You think a CDN$ Nickle wouldn't cut it?? J/k

Imma do that today. Yeah I was skepitical in terms of repotting it this year. Just gonna treat it for bugs and make those soil holes!

Cheers.

Lol, really any size will do. I put nickel in there and then saw you were in Canada and could not remember what size a Canadian nickel was, so I added the US reference.

John

 

[eferguson1974]

I just found out a few trees I have are this species. I can get 3/4-1" trees three feet tall for two bucks. So I think I will get some more to put in the ground or my new raised wicking beds. They should fatten up nice in the new beds system. I dont think they will like aquaponics as much but will try so I might learn something. Thanks for making a thread about them, I was just getting curious about them for bonsai.

 

[Craigm]

G'day guys,
Murraya is one Tree which started me into this wonderful Art .
I only have a smaller Tree here is a fruit from it


There are many varieties and I admire the ones which have smooth bark over rougher bark.
I have never taken cutting so can't advice there but wish you good fortune with this species.
http://www.bonsaihunk.us/MurrayaPaniculata.html

http://min-hsuan-lo.ofbonsai.org/2007/12/20/murraya-restyle/

This one I saved from fb, sorry I can't credit the owner as I don't remember his Name although here he is with his magnificent Murraya.

 

[f1pt4]

I just found out a few trees I have are this species. I can get 3/4-1" trees three feet tall for two bucks. So I think I will get some more to put in the ground or my new raised wicking beds. They should fatten up nice in the new beds system. I dont think they will like aquaponics as much but will try so I might learn something. Thanks for making a thread about them, I was just getting curious about them for bonsai.

Dang! Good for you. You don't even want to know how much I paid for the above one. But let's just say even a clipping from it will be significantly more than a couple bucks!

Ah the joys of growing tropicals in a northern climate!

 

[Cypress187]

improve the drainage temporarily by taking a chopstick and inserting it through the soil

Won't this cause the water to drain out of the bottom and give bad 'coverage' of all the roots? And I guess it will only work for a few days or not?

 

[Mellow Mullet]

Won't this cause the water to drain out of the bottom and give bad 'coverage' of all the roots? And I guess it will only work for a few days or not?

It has to be done all over the surface of the pot. Lots of times the first inch of soil is all that is clogged up. I have done it many times and it got me through another season. It is just a temporary solution. Some drainage is better than none at all.

John

 

[Anthony]

Easy shrub to grow.
Not tropical, from what was told to us, can handle some frost in the southern Chinese mountains.

Freely draining soil, but must have a size able trunk to look anything like the image above.

Usually collected from the wild or old hedges.

K has a 14 foot tall shrub in the backyard, bird left a chance seed, house next door has it as a hedge.

Like sun, lots of sun.
Good Day
Anthony