Newly styled Hinoki shohin

[Brian Van Fleet]

Yes, I don't think the tree is truly for sale, or expected to sell for that price. If anything, it's intended to get us talking on the forums about Brussels.

Even if I was in the market for $65k trees, I've seen lots of $8k trees I'd rather have.

 

[Beng]

That would make sense, price it so high that you only have to part with it if it is above what you ever imagined you'd get. Have you ever seen the pine at the back entrance to the National Bonsai and Penjing Museum. That is an amazing tree I would consider priceless.

 

[MACH5]

Yes, I don't think the tree is truly for sale, or expected to sell for that price. If anything, it's intended to get us talking on the forums about Brussels.

Even if I was in the market for $65k trees, I've seen lots of $8k trees I'd rather have.

Yes I totally agree. This is if nothing else clever marketing on their part. As a small side benefit I also think it's a nice hook to help sell these offsprings they have up on EBay. Although for me was more of a curious fact than a selling point.


As far as the styling of this specimen, I would love to see it designed with more open/negative spaces.

 

[iamdunn4]

Hinoki

Very nicely done
I have three Hanoki's none have even been started towards a Bonsai. One I have in the ground is about 6 feet tall with three trunks. The other two I have in pots 4 foot and 3 foot tall, all have gotten leggy. From what I have experienced and understand from reading is they don't back bud. They also need a lot of light to keep the inner branches from dying off. I wonder how if at all I can get them to back bud so I can work towards a Bonsai. I am thinking about air layering them but don't know for sure if they will take. To get as large of a trunk as yours, it must be a pretty old tree.

 

[Poink88]

Very nice transformation. Would love to see this progress, please keep us posted.

 

[MACH5]

Very nicely done
I have three Hanoki's none have even been started towards a Bonsai. One I have in the ground is about 6 feet tall with three trunks. The other two I have in pots 4 foot and 3 foot tall, all have gotten leggy. From what I have experienced and understand from reading is they don't back bud. They also need a lot of light to keep the inner branches from dying off. I wonder how if at all I can get them to back bud so I can work towards a Bonsai. I am thinking about air layering them but don't know for sure if they will take. To get as large of a trunk as yours, it must be a pretty old tree.

Thank you! As far as back budding unfortunately they don't. But I'd rather have someone like Rob (October) who has a lot of experience with them speak more about their care.

To counter the back budding issue you must do clever and creative wiring/styling in order to bring long and lanky branches closer to the trunk. With Hinokis is a lot about visual tricks to make them appear full.

As far as the tree I posted, I do not think it is old at all judging from the appearance of the bark. Most likely the cutting taken from the parent tree was relatively thick to begin with.

 

[MACH5]

Very nice transformation. Would love to see this progress, please keep us posted.

Yes thanks Dario. I plan on posting again in the Spring when I repot the tree.

 

[tmmason10]

Great eye on the initial styling it turned out really nice. In Michael Hagedorn's book he says that most of the time, just wiring a tree can double its value. I'd say you've probably done that here.

 

[cmeg1]

cool,'bonsai Art of Japan' episode #4 gives interesting tips with the hinoki.

 

[MACH5]

Great eye on the initial styling it turned out really nice. In Michael Hagedorn's book he says that most of the time, just wiring a tree can double its value. I'd say you've probably done that here.

Thanks! Yes absolutely. My old teacher/mentor (RIP) used to say exactly the same thing. He also use to say that the value and age of a tree increased as one would cut away branches.

 

[october]

I just saw the 65k tree.. I would like to offer this.. The tree may not be worth quite that much. However, judging by the trunk and branches, this tree is probably around 125-150 years old. Basically, you are not only paying for a bonsai, you are paying for the material. The one I have been training for 10 years has put on maybe 1/2 inch of trunk thinkness in 10 years.

Rob

 

[MACH5]

Update

Wanted to update this thread with a pic of the Hinoki repotted into its new container. I think it works very nicely. The tree's height from soil level is 6.75", a 2" trunk and the canopy has a width of 9.5". After thinking much about it, I have decided to sell it and is currently up on EBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/SHOHIN-HINOKI-BONSAI-/330924648111?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0ca566af. Please excuse my shameless plug!

The tree is starting to generate lots of new growth all over. I'll miss this little guy









Thanks for looking!

 

[Brian Underwood]

Nicely done! It's already in my watch list

 

[Jason_mazzy]

I've been staring at your larch forest for quite some time. Too bad you are so far.

 

[mcpesq817]

Wow, $500? I need to start buying some hinokis to work on for a couple of years and sell. Nice job

 

[bonsai barry]

Great tree and fine job wiring.

 

[Beng]

I bet by the time this auction is done the tree will go for 700-750. It's a nice looking hinoki in a good looking pot.

 

[MACH5]

I've been staring at your larch forest for quite some time. Too bad you are so far.

Hi Jason. Yes I just relisted this piece again. Unfortunately I don't really want to ship this beast at this point so is local pick up only. It mostly needs an intense wiring job to take it where it needs to be. I love it but I really do not have the time for it anymore

I bet by the time this auction is done the tree will go for 700-750. It's a nice looking hinoki in a good looking pot.

LOL well I hope you're right Beng! But I am very pleased at this point

 

[october]

Love this tree. I can't believe you are selling this one. Shohin hinoki of this caliber are quite rare. It is defintley worth $500.

Rob

 

[MACH5]

Love this tree. I can't believe you are sellign this one. Shohin hinoki of this caliber are quite rare. It is defintley worth $500.

Rob

Hi Rob and thanks! Yes I know, it was not easy for me but I had to keep reminding myself that I had purchased the original plant stock in order to style it and sell it. I did fall in love with it though in the process