Where have you seen them? I have one that my teacher gave me from Mojave, harvested in the the late 80's, that a former teacher form the San Diego Bonsai Club gave him before he passed away and fortunately I have one. I would love to find a specimen in the wild to call my own, but not sure what the permit situation is like, or if someone has some on private land to buy. They are absolutely my favorite of all Bonsai Species. The smell of the Juniper is intoxicating and so different from all other Juniper species. Mine has been approximated to be over 300 years old due to it's size and rings we counted in the dead wood before we carved on it and lime suflured.