Dwight
Chumono
Too bad , it croaked....no root growth at all. Oh well , live and learn. Think I'll try diggin g my own next winter.
J. monosperma
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Sorry to hear 
I was just at the gardening center tonight with my wife and was thinking about the tons of plant material I have killed over the years.
I was just at the gardening center tonight with my wife and was thinking about the tons of plant material I have killed over the years.Dwight
Chumono
I guess it's just like koi , you're gonna wipe out a few till you learn to take care of them. Fortunately I havn't spent near as much on an individual bonsai as I would on a koi....my wife would kill me.
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I feel your pain.
As you may know,from my posts at BT,I live in Albuquerque.Monosperma grow around here,both as natives,as seeds from landscaping cultivars,but not in great quantity.I own a couple of 3-6year old babies.I feel your pain.I have rescued a number of landscaping junipers,smaller pines,and spruces that landscaper's crews have dug up.None of these lived,even those that seemed to have enough roots .
As you may know,from my posts at BT,I live in Albuquerque.Monosperma grow around here,both as natives,as seeds from landscaping cultivars,but not in great quantity.I own a couple of 3-6year old babies.I feel your pain.I have rescued a number of landscaping junipers,smaller pines,and spruces that landscaper's crews have dug up.None of these lived,even those that seemed to have enough roots .
Dwight
Chumono
I wonder if this is one of those species that just won't cooperate ? The one I had was from the Albuquerque area and the original collector said that most of the ones he collects live. He even offered me a free replacement if I'd come and get it.
Hi Dwight,
Sorry to hear about the tree. I wouldn't chalk this up to "one of them that wouldn't cooperate" but rather one that was bound to die since it had very little root. I along with Rich work on a few hundered collected juniper every year with about a 98% sucess rate. Why is the rate so high? Because of the root pad. Collecting a good intact root pad has everything to do with the soil/rock it is growing in. It is obvious to me that this juniper and most others this seller has posted are not grown in the right type of rock since there is so little root coming out. Then to bare root them on top of that is a recipe for disaster!
To buy from a good collector with a good history and success rate you would have paid close to $500 for that tree, based on the pics. In that case you are buying a good root pad that gives the tree the best possible shot to survive and a better quality tree with more deadwood and twists.
We will have some collected RMJ available this fall/winter that will have been through atleast 1 growing season and are healthy. As far as getting a replacement for this one that died, if it were me I would cut my losses and move on unless he lives an hour away.
Again, sorry to hear about the tree....
Jason
Sorry to hear about the tree. I wouldn't chalk this up to "one of them that wouldn't cooperate" but rather one that was bound to die since it had very little root. I along with Rich work on a few hundered collected juniper every year with about a 98% sucess rate. Why is the rate so high? Because of the root pad. Collecting a good intact root pad has everything to do with the soil/rock it is growing in. It is obvious to me that this juniper and most others this seller has posted are not grown in the right type of rock since there is so little root coming out. Then to bare root them on top of that is a recipe for disaster!
To buy from a good collector with a good history and success rate you would have paid close to $500 for that tree, based on the pics. In that case you are buying a good root pad that gives the tree the best possible shot to survive and a better quality tree with more deadwood and twists.
We will have some collected RMJ available this fall/winter that will have been through atleast 1 growing season and are healthy. As far as getting a replacement for this one that died, if it were me I would cut my losses and move on unless he lives an hour away.
Again, sorry to hear about the tree....
Jason
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Shohin
Wait... How did you determine it was dead? Did you see that it wasn't growing and pull it out to look at the roots - or did all the foliage turn brown and fall off onto the ground? With this being messed with severly 2 months ago, it would be no surprise that it had no growth yet (maybe not for as long as 2 years).
Dwight
Chumono
Oh it was dead. All the foilage was either gone or brittle. All the branches were brittle , even the very small ones near the trunk. DED ! CROAKED ! Gone to the great forest in the sky............
I'm not planning on availing myself of the replacement offer , I've a feeling that if I went up there this summer there wouldn't be anything to replace it with
BTW , does anyone remember the pinon pine that was shown on e-bay with it's roots , or lack there of. Well somehow I ended up with that poor thing and IT"S STILL ALIVE. It's dropped a few needles but is still hanging in there. Don't know what to do with it but it's alive.
I'm not planning on availing myself of the replacement offer , I've a feeling that if I went up there this summer there wouldn't be anything to replace it with
BTW , does anyone remember the pinon pine that was shown on e-bay with it's roots , or lack there of. Well somehow I ended up with that poor thing and IT"S STILL ALIVE. It's dropped a few needles but is still hanging in there. Don't know what to do with it but it's alive.
Dwight
Chumono
Wellllllll.....the pinon was included with the juni sorta as a gift I guess so I thought what the heck , I'll try to save the little guy. I'm thinking next winter I'll put it in the ground and maybe use it as a landscape tree with my Japanese style garden. It would be a nice contrast to the junies and Afgan pines.
