Thanks though I forgot to explain ants feed on honey doo. Which the honey doo is excretion, feces ,and or waste from scale , mealy bug, aphids or almost any plant sap feeding insect. When checking orchards it's difficult to just spot honey doo by itself but curious if anyone has any pics of the honey doo on their bonsai before it turns to sooty mold? Just thought it was cool how ants will protect the scale and kill the beneficials because they want sip on that honey doo.
Help! is this scale or something else
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leatherback
The Treedeemer
Sorry.. Just put all my tropicals outside this weekend, and washed them, and the floor down with hot soapy water. Everything was sticky from the resident scale population in my 7ft fig. Effectively you get shiny slightly sicky spots on the leaves. The honeydew dries in a bit. Only when it is really moist do you get fungus growing on it. I never get it.
sparklemotion
Shohin
"fresh" honeydew looks like drops of water, like you just watered the foliage. But, you haven't just watered the foliage. So you take a closer look at your ficus area and say some bad swears.
headive24
Yamadori
So ive decided the black dots are not scale, they are either buds or old buds. The problem that I am referring to is the leaves at the ends of each branch turn brown and die. Sometimes they don't even develop before they die. I will post more pics but they look perfect when i see them on my comp; so im not sure why you guys are saying the pics are bs.
headive24
Yamadori
The tree was purchased at a reputable bonsai nursery in sacramento and it was labeled "seiju- Chinese elm"
Potawatomi13
Imperial Masterpiece
Definitely or something else
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headive24
Yamadori
bonsaichile
Omono
My advice still applies: Outside ALL THE TIME or it will die.
Shibui
Imperial Masterpiece
Dead new shoots. Probably has been too dry at some stage. Could be lack of light or low humidity.
As many have already said. Chinese elm (Seiju is a variety of Chinese elm) is very difficult to keep indoors. It needs to be outside.
As many have already said. Chinese elm (Seiju is a variety of Chinese elm) is very difficult to keep indoors. It needs to be outside.
Brian Van Fleet
Pretty Fly for a Bonsai Guy
Scale:
sparklemotion
Shohin
Yep
This picture was from January. I figured I'd capture it at the time just in case someone asked a question like @Benny w did above.
After the photos, I did some meditative q-tip and isopropyl murdering, and the new growth seems healthy on the reinstated insecticidal soap regimen.
headive24
Yamadori
I have made adjustments to the security of my yard to where i have a little peace of mind leaving my trees outside. There was a time where things were disappearing from my yard (people pretty much suck) and i didn't want to leave any small trees that would be easily carried away outside overniht. But it would be pointless to protect them in this way just to negatifvely affect their health or possibly kill them. Thanks for the advice
headive24
Yamadori
so update...this tree (along with some others) was diseased. I haven't narrowed it down 100% but I believe it is some kinda dieback disease similar to Botryosphaeria or diploida. I have noticed that the large trees in the yard of the property where I live almost all have dead tops and tips. Some of them have splitting in the bark and some look dead. Also, the rest of the surrounding neighborhood seems to have the same problem. I'm now getting worried about my tree collection and am stressing majorly. I have already had to throw away a handful of them. This disease (or these diseases) seems to affect both coniferous and broad-leaved trees equally. I notice that wood on branches changes colors and the new leaves (or growing tips on juniper) seem to turn brown and crumble. Since this location is rented and isn't a family home, I plan on moving locations soon anyway, but for my time remaining here what should I do? I am going to hopefully get in touch with local extension office to find out exact disease, but for the meantime is there a special product or technique I should be using. (Note: I do spray daconil and neem semi-regularly).
headive24
Yamadori
But as far as those brown dots....those were buds( or maybe future or old buds). I haven't seen other Chinese elms have so many though. It makes me wonder if this is some weird response to dieback diseases. This tree has been disposed of because the disease progressed quickly thru all branches….but there are still more to worry about
Yosemite Goat
Mame
Here is my 2 cents:
Your tree is going inside and then outside. Stop doing that.
Keep it in one place (preferably outside) that way the leaves can be ready for the sun each day.
Those elms (I likely know where the tree came from as I have had a couple) are/were potted in full pine bark, super moisture retention if it still is.
Reduce your watering if it is holding water.
Lastly, the fine twigs at the tip are likely dying because of the two mentioned items.
As for the bumps on the side...... it is an elm!
Lastly, call the bonsai grower, they don't want trees to die any more than we do.
@sorce he called it, even though he does have crazy posts
Good luck
Your tree is going inside and then outside. Stop doing that.
Keep it in one place (preferably outside) that way the leaves can be ready for the sun each day.
Those elms (I likely know where the tree came from as I have had a couple) are/were potted in full pine bark, super moisture retention if it still is.
Reduce your watering if it is holding water.
Lastly, the fine twigs at the tip are likely dying because of the two mentioned items.
As for the bumps on the side...... it is an elm!
Lastly, call the bonsai grower, they don't want trees to die any more than we do.
@sorce he called it, even though he does have crazy posts
Good luck
headive24
Yamadori
No the only bugs i have seen on plants or soil are fungus gnats (eradicated soon after noticing), and some leaf-legged bugs that i used to see but haven't for a few months now. From some researh, the leaf-legged bug is hardly considered a pest; but based on the method of piercing and sucking plant juices, it seems likely disease spread is possible through them. Another thing i worry about is the dried clump of hair-looking flowers from a silk tree are covering a whole area of my yard and I find them after they have landed on foliage of some of my trees. This silk tree shows some major bark peeling and some black oozing which leads me to think it is infected and these falling leaves are a perfect way for it to spread. I am installing garden netting/ sun filter to catch these before they land of my trees
leatherback
The Treedeemer
Sorry, but the tree did not have a disease. It was just a simple care issue where a lack of airmovement, sunshine and dry air inside kills the leaves. As i already posted in my first post, lots of buds. Nothi g to do with scale. And the number of buds is normal for this variety.
You really need to start listening to people and adjust your care of the plants you have. There are way less trees dying from infections than the internet would make you believe. 99.9% of tree mortality is due to bad care or bad timing. In other words, misinformation or not listening.
There is a reason why people put more in their posts than what is asked for.
You really need to start listening to people and adjust your care of the plants you have. There are way less trees dying from infections than the internet would make you believe. 99.9% of tree mortality is due to bad care or bad timing. In other words, misinformation or not listening.
There is a reason why people put more in their posts than what is asked for.
