Help identifying baby bonsai’s

Hehe...I looked up the product on Amazon UK.


I love the picture where the person is diligently writing "bonsai tree" on the plant label :D As if that identifies the plant in any way!

None of the review images are any more help. There are some conifers in there...probably pine. Yours are not those for sure.

I tried seeing if the product is available in the US in case there was more information...I couldn't find it with a short search.

So, yeah, as @Kanorin says, lots of signs this is a product only to take advantage of marketing gimmicks :(

That said, it was a birthday present! Someone cares about you enough to gift it and you care about them enough to grow it and want to care for it properly :D And I think you're doing very well so far! What you have looks healthy and compact so is very likely getting good growing conditions for this stage...great job :)

Since we don't have a proper ID and can't seem to get one from what we know about the product, @Kanorin suggestion that we might not be able to positively ID until a little older is your best bet...so, let's get them older ;)

Many seedlings are more resilient that older plants. That they got this big without damping off is a good sign your watering habits are fine for now. They look wet in your pictures, but maybe you just watered them?? As they grow and as spring approaches, they will use more water...be wary of that. Learn to water by soil appearance (plant need) rather than by a fixed schedule. Many new growers water by a fixed schedule and do fine until the plant/season changes enough that that schedule is no longer appropriate...then their plant dies for "no reason" :( Learn to know how your trees changes with the seasons and how their water needs change as well. Lots of good info on this site...or just ask if you need help :)

Your seedlings also look like they are getting adequate light for now. The growth is compact (not leggy) and the leaves are small and nicely colored. Large leaves and leggy growth can look impressive and like the tree is growing great, but are actually a sign the tree is struggling. Yours look fine.

You will want to consider how to fertilize these guys soon. Peat will have some nutrients in it. Coconut coir usually does not. The trees will need some trace elements and nitrogen to continue to grow. If the leaves start turning yellow...especially if highlighting the veins, they likely will need fertilizer. You might want to start researching if you don't already have a plan.

Once they get a few more pairs of leaves, they should be easier to identify. Things like leaves being alternate or opposite, the leaf margin, and even if the leaves are smooth, rough or hairy can be of great help in identification. There are lots of identification guides on the internet if you wanted to learn more on your own. Unfortunately, flowers and fruit are a huge part of identification also. Leaves and bark can often get you to a genus, but flowers and fruit are sometimes needed to differentiate species.

Anyway...too many words! Sorry!

Enjoy your gift!
 
Also, I just wanted to clarify that I know you got this as a gift. I'm not yelling at you - more angry at the people who manufacture and market these "bonsai kits." I bought a similar kit for myself 3-4 years ago - all of those seedlings died. The kits just do not come with good instructions or materials that you need to keep a tree alive for more than ~6 months.

If you really want to embark on the bonsai adventure I'd encourage you to pick a type of tree that you really like (e.g. maple, pine, elm, flowering) and the members of this forum can help steer you to some cheap, beginner-friendly seeds or 3-5 year old nursery stock (which are much more durable than a young seedling).
You make a lot of sense and don’t worry I wasn’t offended 😁 to be honest I had a seedling before these sprouted up and that died so I’m quite proud of myself for making it this far haha! I’ll keep them looked after best I can and just hope for the best but that sounds like a better plan for future growing, I’ve been bought a terrarium for them so I hope that’ll help and I’ve been using bonsai feed from the start, what are your thoughts on what else I can do to help them along?
 

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Hehe...I looked up the product on Amazon UK.


I love the picture where the person is diligently writing "bonsai tree" on the plant label :D As if that identifies the plant in any way!

None of the review images are any more help. There are some conifers in there...probably pine. Yours are not those for sure.

I tried seeing if the product is available in the US in case there was more information...I couldn't find it with a short search.

So, yeah, as @Kanorin says, lots of signs this is a product only to take advantage of marketing gimmicks :(

That said, it was a birthday present! Someone cares about you enough to gift it and you care about them enough to grow it and want to care for it properly :D And I think you're doing very well so far! What you have looks healthy and compact so is very likely getting good growing conditions for this stage...great job :)

Since we don't have a proper ID and can't seem to get one from what we know about the product, @Kanorin suggestion that we might not be able to positively ID until a little older is your best bet...so, let's get them older ;)

Many seedlings are more resilient that older plants. That they got this big without damping off is a good sign your watering habits are fine for now. They look wet in your pictures, but maybe you just watered them?? As they grow and as spring approaches, they will use more water...be wary of that. Learn to water by soil appearance (plant need) rather than by a fixed schedule. Many new growers water by a fixed schedule and do fine until the plant/season changes enough that that schedule is no longer appropriate...then their plant dies for "no reason" :( Learn to know how your trees changes with the seasons and how their water needs change as well. Lots of good info on this site...or just ask if you need help :)

Your seedlings also look like they are getting adequate light for now. The growth is compact (not leggy) and the leaves are small and nicely colored. Large leaves and leggy growth can look impressive and like the tree is growing great, but are actually a sign the tree is struggling. Yours look fine.

You will want to consider how to fertilize these guys soon. Peat will have some nutrients in it. Coconut coir usually does not. The trees will need some trace elements and nitrogen to continue to grow. If the leaves start turning yellow...especially if highlighting the veins, they likely will need fertilizer. You might want to start researching if you don't already have a plan.

Once they get a few more pairs of leaves, they should be easier to identify. Things like leaves being alternate or opposite, the leaf margin, and even if the leaves are smooth, rough or hairy can be of great help in identification. There are lots of identification guides on the internet if you wanted to learn more on your own. Unfortunately, flowers and fruit are a huge part of identification also. Leaves and bark can often get you to a genus, but flowers and fruit are sometimes needed to differentiate species.

Anyway...too many words! Sorry!

Enjoy your gift!
Hehe...I looked up the product on Amazon UK.


I love the picture where the person is diligently writing "bonsai tree" on the plant label :D As if that identifies the plant in any way!

None of the review images are any more help. There are some conifers in there...probably pine. Yours are not those for sure.

I tried seeing if the product is available in the US in case there was more information...I couldn't find it with a short search.

So, yeah, as @Kanorin says, lots of signs this is a product only to take advantage of marketing gimmicks :(

That said, it was a birthday present! Someone cares about you enough to gift it and you care about them enough to grow it and want to care for it properly :D And I think you're doing very well so far! What you have looks healthy and compact so is very likely getting good growing conditions for this stage...great job :)

Since we don't have a proper ID and can't seem to get one from what we know about the product, @Kanorin suggestion that we might not be able to positively ID until a little older is your best bet...so, let's get them older ;)

Many seedlings are more resilient that older plants. That they got this big without damping off is a good sign your watering habits are fine for now. They look wet in your pictures, but maybe you just watered them?? As they grow and as spring approaches, they will use more water...be wary of that. Learn to water by soil appearance (plant need) rather than by a fixed schedule. Many new growers water by a fixed schedule and do fine until the plant/season changes enough that that schedule is no longer appropriate...then their plant dies for "no reason" :( Learn to know how your trees changes with the seasons and how their water needs change as well. Lots of good info on this site...or just ask if you need help :)

Your seedlings also look like they are getting adequate light for now. The growth is compact (not leggy) and the leaves are small and nicely colored. Large leaves and leggy growth can look impressive and like the tree is growing great, but are actually a sign the tree is struggling. Yours look fine.

You will want to consider how to fertilize these guys soon. Peat will have some nutrients in it. Coconut coir usually does not. The trees will need some trace elements and nitrogen to continue to grow. If the leaves start turning yellow...especially if highlighting the veins, they likely will need fertilizer. You might want to start researching if you don't already have a plan.

Once they get a few more pairs of leaves, they should be easier to identify. Things like leaves being alternate or opposite, the leaf margin, and even if the leaves are smooth, rough or hairy can be of great help in identification. There are lots of identification guides on the internet if you wanted to learn more on your own. Unfortunately, flowers and fruit are a huge part of identification also. Leaves and bark can often get you to a genus, but flowers and fruit are sometimes needed to differentiate species.

Anyway...too many words! Sorry!

Enjoy your gift!
Thank you yay hehe and the mystery will have to go on a little longer then but I’m determined to find out! I had just watered them yeah and I’ve been watering them going off how they look really so it’s not routined and I’ve only given them the amount they’ll soak up which fingers crossed has worked so far 😁 that’s great information though I’ll make sure that they get enough water as it gets warmer, I’ve got some bonsai feed that I’ve been using which has lots of nutrients for them:) It’s a shame I’m so far off the flowering stage haha but I’ll keep an eye on the changes in the leaves as they grow and keep researching, thank you for your guidance! I really appreciate all the help I’ve had
 
Don't go too crazy with the "bonsai feed." Actually you should post here exactly what that is and what the instructions are- especially if it has N-P-K numbers.

2-3 month old seedlings of most trees probably need very very little fertilizer. Seedlings growing in the winter months in a window need even less!
 
Fab thanks for letting me know! I’ll stop for a while and just use water 😁
 

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Wow that has to be one of the worse “bonsai kits” I’ve ever seen. Most at least mention what the seeds are even if they often supply inadequate material and instructions to properly care for them.

Sorry I don’t mean to rain on your Christmas gift but I am just amazed. How are they growing now?
 
Wow that has to be one of the worse “bonsai kits” I’ve ever seen. Most at least mention what the seeds are even if they often supply inadequate material and instructions to properly care for them.

Sorry I don’t mean to rain on your Christmas gift but I am just amazed. How are they growing now?
They are all thriving I’m really pleased with all three, the littlest one has dropped the brown leaf and grown another healthy one since the photo was taken
 

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