Help identification celtis.

[defra]

Hi there bnuts!
I have this celtis for a good few years now.
It was sold to me as a chopped trunk as celtis sinensis.

After looking up the species on google for pictures of mature trees and progressed bonsai over the years i am not so sure anymore if it realy is a sinensis.
For the care i think there is a slight difference as i understand that the celtis sinensis dont tollerate frost and other celtis varietys can take some frost a bit better..

In the immages found on celtis sinensis i see older trees have kinda a smooth bark and mine is not smooth and has a more textured bark
Picture of my tree:


In general it does not make a big difference but id like to know sure so i know if i have to keep doing the two step if we get frost....
On google ive found celtis australis has similar bark, i wonder if there are people here with experience with either of these varietys to compare or know Any specific differences to help me Identify this tree.

 

[sdavis]

Nice tree!

 

[defra]

Nice tree!

Thnx this is the back tough it has a full progression thread here: https://www.bonsainut.com/threads/celtis-sinensis.30557/

I create this one in the hope to narrow down the exact variety of celtis

 

[BobbyLane]

Will either be Chinese or a European Hackberry, the Chinese version apparently has smaller leaves, bit smaller leaves than the tree I had. You could look up the ones @JudyB had and compare the leaf size. European one will be a little more adapted to cooler climates, but I doubt you'd have much issues witht the Chinese version if thats what it is. If worried you could always stick it under a bench in the winter.

 

[BobbyLane]

'mine is not smooth and has a more textured bark'

Chinese hackberry

 

[defra]

'mine is not smooth and has a more textured bark'

Chinese hackberry
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Yeah i found this one earlyer also but after i posted this thread.
I have found some more specific info in the meantime:

Chinese Celtis, Celtis, Chinese Elm, Hackberry, Japanese Hackberry

weeds.org.au

There is some difference in leaves and fruits nothing so far about the bark.

In general care and response to techniques it does not realy matter much but im Just curious wich one i got.
Ive got it placed with all my other trees outside sheltered on the ground.
It can go in the shed in case of realy cold days... but i prefer to keep them outside if possible

 

[JudyB]

Mine has been identified as sugarberry, Celtis leavigata. It doesn’t have rough bark. We have lots of common hackberry here in the landscape and all are fine with frost and cold weather. Pretty sure some of them are Sinesis.