Corny jigs

ShadyStump said:
...and now I'm wondering if you have some songs that might help me workout the rhythm patterns in French. THIS, I'm thinking, might be what keeps holding me up.
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Hi,

Thanks for posting this video about "English speaking rhythm". I I were still in activity (I mean, ot retired), I would use and dispatch this video to my kids. My students, sorry.

The prosody in English and French is very different : firstly, there are no "inner" stress on words in French like in English. Like "refuse" (- - / ) and "refuse" (/ - - ), or "dessert" (- /) and "desert" (/ -)

The inner rhythm of the english language is probably what made "pop music" so ubiquitous : it's got rhythm in itself, whereas French language has a rhythm that is closer to the "feeling" that one has when they speak.

It's difficult to explain, especially at this hour of the night when I indulge in my Guinness hour of the week :rolleyes: 😁

Until I set up my tablet and "buy" a connection to skype, here is a song that you can sing along, very good French, very decent accent (though a bit "parisien") It flows like water in the Seine river, or the Loire...


I think that singing along with such songs is one of the best way to catch the gist of it. To me, it was the beatles, the Doors, Pete Seeghers, Clapton, the Pretenders, Zappa !!! etc...

More recent singers, like in the US, have a tendency either to be "digitalized" - which I hate ! I love "authentic people", not plastic people.

Just like in real life, "quelqu'un de bien"...


You can find the lyrics and try to sing along. I think the problem is not relly the rhythm, but the phonems for "un", "ien", "an", nasals that are not familiar with English speakers. And when you can say an "u", (like they have in German or Turkish) you're on the golden path ;)

Otherwise, some French artists in the 60s did an immense job "translating" into French jazz music. Try it, if you dare, I dare not 😂but I love it :


(https://www.google.com/search?q=Les...xLjGYAQCgAQKgAQHIAQPAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp)
 
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The prosody in English and French is very different : firstly, there are no "inner" stress on words in French like in English. Like "refuse" (- - / ) and "refuse" (/ - - ), or "dessert" (- /) and "desert" (/ -)

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This is great! And makes SO MUCH SENSE!
...As this translates DIRECTLY to most "English spoken with a french accent", too!!!

A lot of French folks speak ENGLISH like this, too!!
 
In Paris.

All the things that made me a 100% French citizen : different roots, the same Republic, other harmonies.

Different creeds.
Here I live in a secular state (France, Europe) that allows everyone to believe in anything, as long as they don't impose their religion on others like in some countries, or states, where they live in a "union" or "islamic state" and some bigots infringe women's rights, men's rights.

When I see what happens in my forefathers' land, Poland, in Hungary too, where bigotry, which is the open door to facism, I'm sad, very sad.

 
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In Paris.

All the things that made me a 100% French citizen : different roots, the same Republic, other harmonies.

Different creeds.
Here I live in a secular state (France, Europe) that allows everyone to believe in anything, as long as they don't impose their religion on others like in some countries, or states, where they live in a "union" or "islamic state" and some bigots infringe women's rights, men's rights.

When I see what happens in my forefathers' land, Poland, in Hungary too, where bigotry, which is the open door to facism, I'm sad, very sad. If this is what their god is, I don't believe in god. We don't need "this" god to make the world a better place for everyone;

Fraternity, brotherhood doesn't need a religious stamp to be effective. And most of the time, "religion" is a mirage...

 
Jeanne Moreau was one of the main artists of the French cinema. But everyone knows that.

"J'aime bien partager le désir des autres" "I like sharing the desire of others" she said (3" or so)

:cool:

She was a great artist.

 
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Take-di-te taka-dum, taketetata, taketetata, takata... (etc.)
Shatkti in the 70s (McLaughlin, Shankar, Hussain, ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakti_(Shakti_album))

.. and tonight, heard that on the radio. In the seventies, we French teens would say : "trippy!"


I'll play it, and dance to it, tomorrow morning before my breakfast tea! 😁
 
I suffered of "stinkfoot" before I used a.. what do you call it, a kind of glass tray for "Gratin dauphinois" ? I left my feet soak in "eau oxygénée", hydrogen peroxyde, for some 15-20minutes : since then no one told me I got stinkfoot :cool:

It killed the bad bacteriae, but kept the good ones alive. Now my friends say "you smell like a baby". 😁

Today, went shopping, and there was this bottle of Irish whiskey. Tried it, tasted good and now I'm... Er, bit of drunk, now. :rolleyes:

 
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Ok, I'm throwing this out there for thoughts.

I think there's a very strong argument to be made that the blues is the quintessential American music. It pervades EVERY genre and subgenre of popular music the nation has ever produced. It was certainly strongly influenced by French folk tunes dating back to the Louisiana colonial times, but since The Purchase has become a uniquely American phenomenon.
And rooted in antebellum black culture no less!
That would, if my under educated argument is true, mean that culturally America is AS, IF NOT MORE BLACK than white euro.

I could start going on about the indelible if convoluted marks the very many indigenous tribes have left on the culture, and how that might add to the un-whiteness of America, but that might be going too far, and has allot less to do with corny jigs.
 
ShadyStump said:
Ok, I'm throwing this out there for thoughts.

I think there's a very strong argument to be made that the blues is the quintessential American music. It pervades EVERY genre and subgenre of popular music the nation has ever produced. It was certainly strongly influenced by French folk tunes dating back to the Louisiana colonial times, but since The Purchase has become a uniquely American phenomenon.
And rooted in antebellum black culture no less!
That would, if my under educated argument is true, mean that culturally America is AS, IF NOT MORE BLACK than white euro.

I could start going on about the indelible if convoluted marks the very many indigenous tribes have left on the culture, and how that might add to the un-whiteness of America, but that might be going too far, and has allot less to do with corny jigs.
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Blues AND country(AND)Western are the true, modern "American Parents" of "quintessential" 'Merican music..

These parents also (through a few evolutions) gave birth to every damn genre under the broad "Rock" Title...

It's merican...

THE FANTASTIC THING IS...

BEING THE FACT THAT THE "PARENTS" OF stereotypical "Merica" music... ARE white AND black... Because "Western" strongly influenced that broad "Rock"...

Buuuuut "Country/Western" was also not entirely white in tradition...

So absolutely!

America is far LESS "white" than "not"

🥰🥰
 
I tried a "creative thinking" exercise, today...

I tried, shortly after waking up, to electronically compose a tiny, rhythm section piece of music to describe "How I feel about today."

It's of poorer quality, seeing as it is simply a video taken from my phone, off of computer speakers...

But you get the idea.

 
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