Copper Pine?
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Cruiser
Chumono
Perhaps it’s a reference to the copper color seen in the upper trunks of some Scots pines.
Desert O'Piñon
Chumono
Got pics?
rockm
Spuds Moyogi
This is what Google AI came up with and I believe it's probably accurate:
Copper pine" is not a recognized scientific variety of pine, but it is most likely referring to the "Cedar Pine" (Pinus glabra), which can sometimes be called "copper pine" due to the reddish-brown color of its mature cones, giving a copper-like appearance
Copper pine" is not a recognized scientific variety of pine, but it is most likely referring to the "Cedar Pine" (Pinus glabra), which can sometimes be called "copper pine" due to the reddish-brown color of its mature cones, giving a copper-like appearance
Desert O'Piñon
Chumono
The tag says Cooper pine, not Copper pine. Pinus cooperi is a pine native to Mexico. It may be a challenge to grow in your more humid area. I don't know much about species, but here's a link: https://www.conifers.org/pi/Pinus_cooperi.php
Desert O'Piñon
Chumono
Easy mistake. Now that we have the right tree, maybe someone else will be able to help you out. I assume you're around the Tyler area. You have a lot of beautiful native pine in your area. You might look into some of those, as they are designed for your climate. Something I learned the hard way.
These are beautiful around here. 90-100’ trees. I have several. Long needle versions. Probably Loblolly. I do see some native pines in a few areas with short needles. I’m about to go look out there for saplings. I drive a lot and scan the countryside. Couldn’t see any small ones while driving. Someday this Spring I’ll stop and look. Those pines are much shorter in height and needle length.
I’m just guilty of trying something different. At $7 it was worth a try. Now that somebody put me back in line (thank you) I’ll be able to research the Cooper Pine.
rockm
Spuds Moyogi
If you’re in Tyler go for cedar elm. It’s all over the place easy to collect and grows very quickly. I’ve collected cedar elm and a few other species around there used to have a place on 25 acres out Big Eddy Rd. Near the lake. Dug CE with trunks inch to nine inches in diameter. You’re actually privileged living there as cedar elm is vastly underused as bonsai material. Mid to late Feb collection time before buds break open but are swelling to green on branches.These are beautiful around here. 90-100’ trees. I have several. Long needle versions. Probably Loblolly. I do see some native pines in a few areas with short needles. I’m about to go look out there for saplings. I drive a lot and scan the countryside. Couldn’t see any small ones while driving. Someday this Spring I’ll stop and look. Those pines are much shorter in height and needle length.
I’m just guilty of trying something different. At $7 it was worth a try. Now that somebody put me back in line (thank you) I’ll be able to research the Cooper Pine.
Desert O'Piñon
Chumono
A little more research shows that Cooper Pine is likely a subspecies of the Ponderosa Pine. It should be able to grow for you, as long as it doesn't stay too wet.
Potawatomi13
Imperial Masterpiece
According to range maps Cooperi is not as far north as N Texas but is a Mexican pine. I have Pinus arizonica it's northern(Arizona)cousin here in Eugene.OR where rain falls and in pumice is doing fine. These have very long but fine needles in fascicles of 3 to 5 needles and can be over 6 " in nature. Mine is not refined yet but had some only 3" when it came to me after collection. You have a rare tree.
Potawatomi13
Imperial Masterpiece
Originally it was thought to be a subspecies of ponderosa but it's now considered a distinct species with 3 or 4 subspecies or "cousins" but only arizonica being north of the border. I wonder if cooperi isn't subtropical and curious if it stands freezing temperatures well at all?
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