CLUMP KIYOHIME ON IBIGAWA

Absolutely love it Sergio!! The sand work really adds something new and fresh!

Thank you Dan. I quite like the results at least as a first experiment. Of course nothing new here. I just stole what the Japanese have done for hundreds of years in their Karesansui Niwa or dry gardens and applied it to bonsai. But I think the idea is interesting and will continue to explore it.
 
The detail with the sand, in that beautiful pot, is a really evocative and dynamic element; like rain or perhaps water dripping off the cliffside. I can imagine other patterns that would shift the mood.
 
Sergio I just want to say thank you for sharing your work with us! Your work, eye, and photography are such a treat to view. I am drawn to stone plantings and this one is extra special. Cheers!

Thanks Matt! Appreciate it. We must keep trying! :)
 
Yes, you are correct! At this point not advisable to try and separate the tree from the stone. It will most likely result in more harm than good. So... what I have done is dig out pockets of soil around the tree and replace it with new.
Interesting. Per the nature of the slab/rock/etc. planting, do you then perform all individual pocket removal/replacements at the same time as a ‘1-time-event-repot’ until the next repot?

Sorry if I’m missing the big picture logic of this kind of repot.
 
Interesting. Per the nature of the slab/rock/etc. planting, do you then perform all individual pocket removal/replacements at the same time as a ‘1-time-event-repot’ until the next repot?

Sorry if I’m missing the big picture logic of this kind of repot.

No worries. Yes, I do it pretty much all at once. I suppose you could also do it in sections each year.
 
Speaking of shifting sands, my first thought was the black sand common on some of the Hawaiian beaches. Might pair nicely with this rock planting, Along with your choice of imprints or rake marks. I sense a new tool in the works. Beautiful work Sergio.

Thanks Frank, I had the same thought. Will have to try that next time and see.
 
Nice work Sergio, as always. Simulation of water drops is very creative 👌.
 
Thanks Frank, I had the same thought. Will have to try that next time and see.
Lots of options present. My other thought perhaps " Old School " was a thicker natural slab with bark edge to complement the stone. In this case with a portion carved to accept part of the smaller base of the rock. To unify the look as done for the viewing stones. Combination of suggestions from Bonsai Techniques II , John Naka, pg 353 and 363.
Also think your thoughts on position and tray size is spot on. Dramatic example of this can be found on page 349 same book. Emphasizing the natural landscape effect keeping the tree as the focal point.
Fun to think of options, even after the fact. great work, thanks for sharing.
 
Yes, a slab would work well too!

In retrospect I should have mocked up a paper or cardboard container to get a better sense of size relationships. I worried if it was too big it may be too dominant. But I think the larger size is better. Nao may get another call from me LOL! 😂
 
Speaking of shifting sands, my first thought was the black sand common on some of the Hawaiian beaches. Might pair nicely with this rock planting, Along with your choice of imprints or rake marks. I sense a new tool in the works. Beautiful work Sergio.
That would be a nice touch, Frank!
 
Thoughts?
Total beginner Sergio, but to me, a bigger suiban would be the right choice. With both of its edges slightly aligned proportionally with the edges of the canopy as the elongated illustration you provided above.

The second image have it centered with the tree canopy, which looks more appealing, but IMO too small.
 
Total beginner Sergio, but to me, a bigger suiban would be the right choice. With both of its edges slightly aligned proportionally with the edges of the canopy as the elongated illustration you provided above.

The second image have it centered with the tree canopy, which looks more appealing, but IMO too small.

Yes agreed! I think creating a larger negative area on the right will make the composition much more expansive and dynamic. I am working with Nao to see exactly how much bigger it needs to be. And then will need to get a suitable table for it... and so it rolls!
 
Shifting it a bit to the left I think improved it as it increases the negative area towards the right. Right photo showing the repositioned tree within the suiban. Thoughts?

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I’m only just learning about harmony and balance and aesthetics with recently acquiring books but I think intuitively, asymmetry is the way to go here. Especially since your trunks move to the right as with their collective canopy, the negative space to the right with composition over the edge at left is a winner in my eyes.

One question: does width of clump dictate the depth of the rock? A shallow pot seems obvious here (but I think I understand how it relates to a singular tree/trunk and width) given such depth of rock.
 
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