twisted trees
Omono
On a thread asking about when to start fertilizing after a repot it was posted that with chemical ferts to wait 2 weeks but with organics it is safe to start immediately. Why would that be?
I'm doing it all wrong!On a thread asking about when to start fertilizing after a repot it was posted that with chemical ferts to wait 2 weeks but with organics it is safe to start immediately. Why would that be?
Miracle grow??Hey Mike,
Miracle Gro Orchid fertilizer is 30 .10.10 plus micros.
At 1/5 it is 6.2.2. and more or less the same as Oil Meal Seed.
Guess what we are testing next year.
Good Day
Anthony
I wait until the tree shows growth. Why waste fert? What I'm wondering is how the plant knows indifference between organic and non-organic sources of minerals in a solution.I'm doing it all wrong!
Sometimes I don't even wait 2 hours to pit chemical fertilizer on.
It's a wonder I haven't killed every tree I have with that stuff.
If it's fertilizer day at repot time I don't skip anyone. I waste fertilizer all of the time.I wait until the tree shows growth. Why waste fert? What I'm wondering is how the plant knows indifference between organic and non-organic sources of minerals in a solution.
Why is organic better for a tree than commercial fert I guess is what I really want to know.If it's fertilizer day at repot time I don't skip anyone. I waste fertilizer all of the time.
You know the answer to your question. The trees don't know the difference.
Yeah me too. I don't think it is.Why is organic better for a tree than commercial fert I guess is what I really want to know.
I understand that the process of making or growing organically is beneficial to the environment yet fail to understand how a plant fathoms the difference. Now I was wrong once in the past so sometimes I entertain the concept and wait to be enlightened.Yeah me too. I don't think it is.
In northern climes, it may make no difference.
You might want to ease up on the Red Bull a tad my friend.There's differences for sure, none worth arguing IMO, not that you are, but if We do as a group, it is futile.
Results from both camps have long been in and the truth is...
There is more important stuff to figure out besides fertilizing.
I'm moving to 5-1-1 fish alone...
Every 2-3 days in spring.
Weekly thru hot summer to keep the soil "alive".
Every 2-3 days in fall or more if I have to use up a bottle.
If not chemical, it's the simplest cleanest way to go.
No Shit, No clogging, Great Smell, Attracts flies - attracts spiders, dog likes the smell but there is nothing to dig for,
Mix and go.
Iron chips and old pliers on the surface.
Epsom sprinkled in before growth cycles.
I may supplement with Schultz drops weekly to keep micros on point and to have fert for winter tropicals.
More important things to think about?
How about this conundrum.....
We wet juniper foliage to reduce transpiration in cuttings, transplants, etc....
(Note wireme presented article on NOT misting)
When we water then, when we want transpiration which is the driver of our trafiic n which creates backbuds...
Is not watering the foliage as well reducing the transpiration for at least the time it takes for that water to evaporate?
How much does this effect our growth and health?
How can we utilize it to our advantage?
Never thought watering the foliage may lead to root rot, but can a constantly misted tree transpire at all?
No Mas misting.
No Mas foliage feeding.
Sorce
I do both.No Mas misting.
No Mas foliage feeding
generally speaking the plant is able to directly abosorb the cations available as chemical salts (n,p,k,ca,mg etc)whereas the organic nutrients must be broken down by microbial activity or composting to make the same cations available to be taken up by the plant...Basically if you are using chemical ferts you are directly feeding the plant. If you are using organics you are feeding your soil microbiome which in turn feeds your plants the cations broken down by microbial activity and are then able to be absorbed and utilized by the plant same as the chemical salts. Hope this helps clarify some of the basic differences in the two forms of fertilizers and how the plant uses them...I understand that the process of making or growing organically is beneficial to the environment yet fail to understand how a plant fathoms the difference. Now I was wrong once in the past so sometimes I entertain the concept and wait to be enlightened.
I don't believe it!Now I was wrong once in the past so sometimes I entertain the concept and wait to be enlightened.
There's differences for sure, none worth arguing IMO, not that you are, but if We do as a group, it is futile.
Results from both camps have long been in and the truth is...
There is more important stuff to figure out besides fertilizing.
I'm moving to 5-1-1 fish alone...
Every 2-3 days in spring.
Weekly thru hot summer to keep the soil "alive".
Every 2-3 days in fall or more if I have to use up a bottle.
If not chemical, it's the simplest cleanest way to go.
No Shit, No clogging, Great Smell, Attracts flies - attracts spiders, dog likes the smell but there is nothing to dig for,
Mix and go.
Iron chips and old pliers on the surface.
Epsom sprinkled in before growth cycles.
I may supplement with Schultz drops weekly to keep micros on point and to have fert for winter tropicals.
More important things to think about?
How about this conundrum.....
We wet juniper foliage to reduce transpiration in cuttings, transplants, etc....
(Note wireme presented article on NOT misting)
When we water then, when we want transpiration which is the driver of our trafiic n which creates backbuds...
Is not watering the foliage as well reducing the transpiration for at least the time it takes for that water to evaporate?
How much does this effect our growth and health?
How can we utilize it to our advantage?
Never thought watering the foliage may lead to root rot, but can a constantly misted tree transpire at all?
No Mas misting.
No Mas foliage feeding.
Sorce
Entertain the concept of being wrong young patawan.I don't believe it!
So the plant absorbs nutrients in the same form?Y
generally speaking the plant is able to directly abosorb the cations available as chemical salts (n,p,k,ca,mg etc)whereas the organic nutrients must be broken down by microbial activity or composting to make the same cations available to be taken up by the plant...Basically if you are using chemical ferts you are directly feeding the plant. If you are using organics you are feeding your soil microbiome which in turn feeds your plants the cations broken down by microbial activity and are then able to be absorbed and utilized by the plant same as the chemical salts. Hope this helps clarify some of the basic differences in the two forms of fertilizers and how the plant uses them...