Cast your vote on this bunjin
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october
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Thanks Brian..
Hello jkl.. I might be able to pull the paex down. However, the way the branches are structured, there really isn't a good candidate for any chops. Who knows, maybe in many years though.
Rob
Hello jkl.. I might be able to pull the paex down. However, the way the branches are structured, there really isn't a good candidate for any chops. Who knows, maybe in many years though.
Rob
october
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Thanks Judy.
Hi Nybonsai12 yes, as far as the right pad size, it's already been done. The pic is from a year ago. This last Fall the tree was pruned back.
Hi Nybonsai12 yes, as far as the right pad size, it's already been done. The pic is from a year ago. This last Fall the tree was pruned back.
fourteener
Omono
Have you considered planting it at an angle. I know that's a lot of leverage for a small pot to hold it's ground. Many bunjin trees have that look of wondering out over a ledge. The long straight trunk might look better if it wasn't just adding to the height.
Make the tree go to the right and get the weight of the foliage to go left, like the tree is trying to balance itself (like a Heisman Trophy pose). I think it would add a little excitement to an already cool tree.
Make the tree go to the right and get the weight of the foliage to go left, like the tree is trying to balance itself (like a Heisman Trophy pose). I think it would add a little excitement to an already cool tree.
dick benbow
Omono
I like the original but it looks too manicured for me. I think the spirit of the Bunjin is less exact.
I think some of the upper branches need to be removed so that white space works with the design and not alternating, but "holes" that seem to have no reason.
great pot it's in for the style, and true look of bunjin to the trunk. I see so many "literati" where the trunk is much too thick to be a good representation.
I think some of the upper branches need to be removed so that white space works with the design and not alternating, but "holes" that seem to have no reason.
great pot it's in for the style, and true look of bunjin to the trunk. I see so many "literati" where the trunk is much too thick to be a good representation.
coh
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This is kind of what I was thinking...though without actually seeing the tree in person, it's tough to know what could be removed in the top area.
I think the current pointy apex makes the top of the tree look too young and healthy/vibrant compared to the lower half.
Chris
I think the current pointy apex makes the top of the tree look too young and healthy/vibrant compared to the lower half.
Chris
october
Masterpiece
Hello fourteener.. Ironically enough, years ago, my plan was to do the somewhat leaning look. I was repotting this tree at the nursery. That day, Master Hiromi Tsukada was visiting the nursery. I had stopped my work to help him repot a huge, aprox 200-300 year old pine. After that, I went back to repotting my tree. He came by and watched. He noticed the proposed lean of the tree. He took the tree and pushed it up back into the straight postion. He made some gestures with his hands following the trunk, stepped back and said "nice". The tree has had this upright angle ever since.
Rob
Tona
Shohin
I'm late to this thread but of the two I would leave the branches. If it were mine I may lose the bottom right branch only. I like the tree. I have a soft spot for bunjin!!
Tona
Tona
Don Blackmond
Omono
I had a similar thought with this red pine. I contemplated taking off the whole top above the 1st branch, making the tree shorter. I liked the line for a super unique, extreme bunjin.
Ultimately, I chose not to do it, and went with the taller trunk line and removed the bottom branch.
I like it now but have some regrets...
Ultimately, I chose not to do it, and went with the taller trunk line and removed the bottom branch.
I like it now but have some regrets...
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october
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I like the virt... However, like you said about seeing the tree in person. The pads basically sit at the ends of the branches. It is the way that the tree is wired athat gives it the impression that the foliage is close to the trunk.
I am planning on probably bringing the apex down and whe nit matures more, cutting it back a bit.
Rob
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fourteener
Omono
It's not too late, either way it would look good. If you do clip it, clip it quick. I used to stand around for an hour and think about it. Now I've gotten to the point where I just cut things off (things I pondered for a little while at least) and stop the paralysis of analysis!!
october
Masterpiece
Thanks Tona.. I do as well. Bunin is one of, if not my favorite style. Informal upright and bunjin to be specific.
Rob
october
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It can be tough to make that final decision on nice trees and your tree is very nice. I suppose we should be thankful that we actually have several choices on one tree and it can still be nice.
Rob
jk_lewis
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Stan Kengai
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Rob, Sorry to chime in so late, but the first image has a very nice proportion of trunk to branch. So nice, in fact, that I took out a scale and slapped it on the screen. Turns out that the height of branched area to height of bare trunk is 1:1.6, which as some of you may know is (near) the golden ratio. It is very appealing and I personally wouldn't change a thing, and this comes from someone that doesn't normally appreciate bunjin.
october
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Hi Stan.. Thank you...Well, it seems there is not one vote for chopping those branches. It looks like this tree will be keeping them.
I may, however, pull the branches down a bit, creating a thinner silouette. Rob
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Rob, the biggest prob. for me with your tree is the
"ladder" look of your branches...
By this I mean, one on the left, one one the right,
one on the left, and another on the right.... and so on...
Not to mention seeing the trunk all the way up it.
Take your bottom right branch and bring it arround front
towards the viewer... remove the second branch up, on
the right... and thin out the foilage.
Done.
Oh, also remove or stub your large jin on the right in the
middle of your trunk.
I looks more elegant without it.
Lastly, you might consider a slab instead of the pot...
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tmmason10
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Hey Rob, I think you had talked to Nick about this tree after the show last fall and I was just curious about what he had to say. I do like sawgrass's virt idea or something similar.
october
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Rob, the biggest prob. for me with your tree is the
"ladder" look of your branches...
By this I mean, one on the left, one one the right,
one on the left, and another on the right.... and so on...
Not to mention seeing the trunk all the way up it.
Take your bottom right branch and bring it arround front
towards the viewer... remove the second branch up, on
the right... and thin out the foilage.
Done.
Oh, also remove or stub your large jin on the right in the
middle of your trunk.
I looks more elegant without it.
Lastly, you might consider a slab instead of the pot...
All good points. I will consider them. Actually, over the years, I have styled this tree to be different. A somewhat straight trunk for a bunjin, uniform padding and other features that aren't normally associated with the style. The uniquenss of the tree seems to make veryone stop and look at it.
Rob
