BC flatops aren't all the same

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This BC in San Antonio (a famous landmark tree), has been an inspiration of sorts for my BC. It's a mix of flattop and "traditional" design...Just because you have a flattop or a more "pyramid" BC, doesn't mean one design can't influence the other.

http://www.therivardreport.com/heritage-tree-the-ben-milam-bald-cypress/
 
Stunning tree, but I'd never describe it as a "flattop."
 
Stunning tree, but I'd never describe it as a "flattop."
My point exactly, the elements are certainly there. It is not a conventional "flattop" but incorporates elements of that style. Most of the foliage is in the top third of the tree. It's "flat top" starts lower down than most "conventional" flat tops, forking into twin trunks in the upper third of its height. The elements are there, just a bit blurred.
 
Most of the foliage is in the top third of the tree. It's "flat top" starts lower down than most "conventional" flat tops

Looks like a pretty solid canopy, starting at about halfway to me (the ruler don't lie):

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By such a loose definition, a lot of brooms could be called "flat tops" - that seems counterproductive.
 
I think if most of the foliage below my 2/3 mark was removed, then this would indeed look like a flat topped tree . . .
 
Looks like a pretty solid canopy, starting at about halfway to me (the ruler don't lie):

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By such a loose definition, a lot of brooms could be called "flat tops" - that seems counterproductive.
Jeez, look this isn't rocket science. Take my word for it, the question of "are BC always flat top or more conical pine shapes" comes up a lot with people just starting out with the species. There is a tendency to think "either or" when it comes to a flat top design or a more "traditional" triangular silhouette. This shows that the line between those two styles isn't bright in nature. There's a blend.
 
Jeez, look this isn't rocket science. Take my word for it, the question of "are BC always flat top or more conical pine shapes" comes up a lot with people just starting out with the species. There is a tendency to think "either or" when it comes to a flat top design or a more "traditional" triangular silhouette. This shows that the line between those two styles isn't bright in nature. There's a blend.
Fair enough. I'd actually like to see more examples too . . .
 
Do you have a bald cypress?
 
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Edit: and no idea how to style them, I'm quick to add :)
So, I'm genuinely interested in other styling options and seeing more examples.
 
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I can't find links to any other distinct tree images that I can post right now. This one popped up out of nowhere. I've seen this tree on a few trips to San Antonio. The many variations that BC can take can't be described precisely or shown in a dozen photos.

Best advice is to take a trip to the Bayou and have a look around.

I got the feel for BC when I was a kid visiting my extended family on the Gulf Coast in Orange, Tex. and fishing the backwater bayous on the Sabine River with my uncle. A simple float through a La. Bayou on a New Orleans trip can also open your eyes. A trip to NOLA is NEVER a bad thing in any case.
 
Looks nice for a twin trunk overall. Would be interesting to see what the separate trunks look like.

Grimmy
 
Looks nice for a twin trunk overall. Would be interesting to see what the separate trunks look like.

Grimmy
It is not a twin trunk, or at least not really. The split is just over a third of the way up the main trunk, far too high for a classical twin trunk. Attempting to cubbyhole style can be extremely frustrating. Tree in nature rarely provide clearcut examples of those nine styles that show up in books. Even the Japanese bonsaists have long been amused at those strict defined "styles" in western books.

Style is a continuum for trees. One can bleed over into another and still look natural. This is especially true for some species like BC which can defy most traditional "styles" from the books. Trying to push trees into specific categories when designing them can frustrate the entire effort...
 
Style is a continuum for trees. One can bleed over into another and still look natural. This is especially true for some species like BC which can defy most traditional "styles" from the books. Trying to push trees into specific categories when designing them can frustrate the entire effort...

When we had 20 or so BC my Wife and I used to differ widely on what they "should" look like - a difficult tree indeed that in my opinion resists any traditional style. She actually asked me not to get the 5 foot one John had because she does not like that particular "look". In a way it was far better with another owner as we lost all here due to pseudomonas syringae. Had that tree been here it would have landed up in the Land fill along with everything else.

Either way, thank you for sharing that one and starting a nice conversation on a rarely discussed topic.

Grimmy
 
Search the Nut for bald cypress and for JohnG. Lots of info and pictures. BC's tend to be different depending on where they are. Here on the coast we occasionally have hurricanes. The storms often take the tops off of the BCs, hence to normal to us flat top. Here they also are normally located in swampy areas and develop the prominent knees. When BCs are located in the North or inland they are not ravaged with the hurricanes, hence a more "tree like" style. Also go to YouTube and look at JohnG's videos, they are exceptional and more often than not are about BC's. Welcome and good luke.
 
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