Basic beginner tool set

Newcastle

Sapling
Messages
28
Reaction score
5
Location
sierra nevada foothills, placer county, ca
USDA Zone
9B
Completely new, was wondering if anyone new of a good basic tool set and where to purchase. Is there a company you have dealt with that you could recommend. I have found some online but looking for an outfit you might be familiar with that has good quality and price.
 
Check and see what they have @ Stone Lantern. I've purchased tools from them that have been lasting for years simply by taking care of them. You could spend a King's ransom on some of the really high end tools, but it's really not necessary. Get the best ones you can afford.

One thing I would pick up outside the bonsai tools is a pair of needle nose snips such as from Fiskars. I use them all the time and they are invaluable. Check ebay too since you may find a nice set for relatively cheap. Lot will depend on the size of the materials you are working with. Get a couple sizes a spherical knob cutters, branch cutters, bud clippers, scissors, knife-saw and bypass pruners. Generally, you can find all these things sold as sets, so you shouldn't have to hunt around for individual tools.
 
Last edited:
Tool sets, by and large, aren't really necessary at first. The only specialized tool you might need is a concave cutter. Regular scissors, wire cutters and other improvised tools can be perfectly adequate at first.

Also, by and large, the tool sets sold online and at some bonsai retailers aren't really worth the expense, as they are mostly cheap Chinese-made. Buying a complete set of tools right off the bat isn't the best way to get tools.

Buying really good Japanese tools one at a time over the years is the most cost-effective and useful way to get them. Quality Japanese tools are built to last a very long time. They're also precision-built with edges that cut cleanly (an important quality). They also work better mechanically, with pivots that don't come loose, etc.

If you buy a complete set, you will probably spend the equivalent of what a single good-quality Japanese-made concave cutter costs. Also if you buy a complete set, you will also probably find yourself replacing all of it sooner rather than later, as they break or lose their effectiveness.
 
Last edited:
Tool sets, by and large, are really necessary at first. The only specialized tool you might need is a concave cutter. Regular scissors, wire cutters and other improvised tools can be perfectly adequate at first.

Also, by and large, the tool sets sold online and at some bonsai retailers aren't really worth the expense, as they are mostly cheap Chinese-made. Buying a complete set of tools right off the bat isn't the best way to get tools.

Buying really good Japanese tools one at a time over the years is the most cost-effective and useful way to get them. Quality Japanese tools are built to last a very long time. They're also precision-built with edges that cut cleanly (an important quality). They also work better mechanically, with pivots that don't come loose, etc.

If you buy a complete set, you will probably spend the equivalent of what a single good-quality Japanese-made concave cutter costs. Also if you buy a complete set, you will also probably find yourself replacing all of it sooner rather than later, as they break or lose their effectiveness.

I agree (somewhat). I want to add that you can buy a good quality Japanese set...just be prepared to pay a lot. I managed to buy a used 5 piece Masakuni set through Craigslist for $100. Though this is pure luck...it just shows it can be found.

Rockm's point of buying quality is very important. Start with an 8" concave cutter. My 2nd choice will be an 8" knob cutter...the rest can follow or can be substituted with regular tools.
 
my stone lantern shopping cart look like this:

Bonsai Tree Concave Branch Cutters by Roshi Tools 8" (203 mm)

$29.00



Bonsai Tree Knob Cutter by Roshi Tools 8.25" (210 mm)

$29.00


Is Roshi junk or should I pull the trigger, I want to order today or tomorrow so I get them by Christmas. Any other suggestions? I don't see myself spending any more then $30 on one tool.
 
I've noticed that subconsciously, I always grab my wire cutters, scissors, and knob cutters when I head out to the benches. That's where I'd start.

Wire cutters (my first and only pair in nearly 20 years) are Kiku, 8" black.
Knob cutters are Yoshiaki, 8" black...2nd or 3rd pair of these
Scissors are stainless.

Black metal works just as well, or better than any stainless tool I have. Though I really do like my BIG stainless concave cutter...
 
Last edited:
I don't see myself spending any more then $30 on one tool.

Been there...I can relate but believe me, it will be cheaper in the long run if you start with $75-ish cutter now.

The rest could be cheap as they are not as critical.
 
Both Lotus Bonsai Nursery in Lotus, CA and Maruyama Nursery in Sacramento sell good tools and are reasonably close to you. I echo the suggestion that you start with a concave cutter, wire cutter, and good pair of bonsai shears.
 
" I don't see myself spending any more then $30 on one tool."

At this point, you don't really need to. You especially don't need the knob cutter. The concave cutter is fine. The knob cutter is used only rarely, like once or twice a year depending on your material. Anyway, the concave does the same job only with twice the cut.

That money will buy you OK quality. The Roshi name doesn't ring any particular bells, but that doesn't really matter as quality Japanese makers license their products for others to market under various names. The tools listed on Dallas bonsai are high carbon steel and look pretty good.

However, as you progress (or not depending on how all this grows or doesn't grow, on you), you will find that you get what you pay for in tools. Buy one quality tool and it lasts longer than tw or three cheaper tools. Which is less expensive--the $50-$75 cutter, or three $25 cutters over ten years of use?
 
my stone lantern shopping cart look like this:

Bonsai Tree Concave Branch Cutters by Roshi Tools 8" (203 mm)

$29.00



Bonsai Tree Knob Cutter by Roshi Tools 8.25" (210 mm)

$29.00


Is Roshi junk or should I pull the trigger, I want to order today or tomorrow so I get them by Christmas. Any other suggestions? I don't see myself spending any more then $30 on one tool.

Buy them, you'll be ok.
 
I've noticed that subconsciously, I always grab my wire cutters, scissors, and knob cutters when I head out to the benches. That's where I'd start.

Wire cutters (my first and only pair in nearly 20 years) are Kiku, 8" black.
Knob cutters are Yoshiaki, 8" black...2nd or 3rd pair of these
Scissors are stainless.

Black metal works just as well, or better than any stainless tool I have. Though I really do like my BIG stainless concave cutter...

Traditional bonsai wire cutters or the style that looks like scissors?
 
Traditional bonsai wire cutters or the style that looks like scissors?

I have a pair of wire cutters that look like scissors and hate them. They are worthless for anything over 2.5 aluminum.

Here are my "essentials", in descending order of use from left to right:
scissors...wire cutter...knob cutter...chopsticks...pliers (any will do)...tweezers
 

Attachments

  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    151.5 KB · Views: 52
Last edited:
I agree with Brian. These are the tools you "need" to get. They are the ones you will use all the time. Like almost every time you work on your trees....

Some of the other tools you can aquire along the way, as you will need them from time to time, but more often than not, they will remain in your bag.
 
I have a pair of wire cutters that look like scissors and hate them. They are worthless for anything over 2.5 aluminum.

Here are my "essentials", in descending order of use from left to right:
scissors...wire cutter...knob cutter...chopsticks...pliers (any will do)...tweezers

Hey, those tools look like mine! I think the blue labels are popular color hehe
 
You can get a lot of cutters in small sizes at Sears... :cool:
 
You can get a lot of cutters in small sizes at Sears... :cool:

You mean wire cutters right?

I use those and household pliers too...though I also have a cheap Chinese bonsai wire cutter that works perfectly for snipping wires during removal IF needed. To date I still unwind my wires w/o any problems. (another advantage of aluminum over copper?) But I only wired a few of my trees and minimally too.
 
Back
Top Bottom