And Now For Something Completely Different..

[Vin]

As for the finishes that more like pots, isn't that just re-inventing the wheel?

I'd like to have a metal pot that is polished like a mirror. Would be so much cooler than black plastic or even dark brown ceramic.

The idea behind the two finishes was to make people think twice that they were even made of steel. Not to be tricky but to provide a bit of a "No Way" factor. Polished SS is easy compared to these two finishes but something we talked about. Maybe the next one, who knows?

 

[rockm]

Thanks for your candid yet insightful comments. I agree they will not be for everyone but I do think there could be a place for them in bonsai provided the plant suffers no ill effects. As far as clay having a straightforward connection to the tree, isn't stainless made from elements and minerals found on earth?

The jury is out on heat build up. Come July and August I'll have a pretty good idea on that aspect.

"As far as clay having a straightforward connection to the tree, isn't stainless made from elements and minerals found on earth?"

You're really making that comparison? Let's just say the process that stainless steel requires to become a bonsai pot requires a few more steps than clay. steel also isn't the natural habitat for trees in nature. Dirt and clay mostly is.

 

[TomB]

"As far as clay having a straightforward connection to the tree, isn't stainless made from elements and minerals found on earth?"

You're really making that comparison? Let's just say the process that stainless steel requires to become a bonsai pot requires a few more steps than clay. steel also isn't the natural habitat for trees in nature. Dirt and clay mostly is.

Wire

The pots are nice artifacts. Don't think I'd use them myself, but that's not the point.

 

[Vin]

"As far as clay having a straightforward connection to the tree, isn't stainless made from elements and minerals found on earth?"

You're really making that comparison? Let's just say the process that stainless steel requires to become a bonsai pot requires a few more steps than clay. steel also isn't the natural habitat for trees in nature. Dirt and clay mostly is.

No, I'm not trying to compare the two and I agree that a clay pot is somewhat more natural. What I am saying is a pot made from clay isn't really all that different than one made of steel. The process behind making them is but they both contain earthy products. Also, when add a glaze to a clay pot then you really have taken steps that lessen the differences. IMO.

If the first pot was clay with a steel looking glaze would that be any more tolerated? I just don't know.

 

[Stickroot]

Sorry so late.
It is so nice to see everyone's open minded remarks about these pots.

 

[0soyoung]

It is so nice to see everyone's open minded remarks about these pots.

LMAO.


... heresy.

 

[sorce]

Isn't Florida like a crotch?
Salty and humid.

Is this thing powder yet?

Plus one for powder coat.
But not a stainless one.

The other "wait there's more" is steel too?

The tree that belongs in there is any tree you wish to add a very natural lightning feature to.

Seriously.....
I want to say the only way they can "work", is with a design on the front to match a specific tree feature....

But.....
I really think you fellers just have way too much time on your hands.

Don't rub your nuts on this one!
Sock or not!

It's still an amazing piece of work.

Perhaps a hood ornament for the Ranchero?
Lol...

A dope stainless bonsai would look badass.

Sorce

 

[rockm]

Sorry so late.
It is so nice to see everyone's open minded remarks about these pots.

yeah, because I don't like something means my mind is closed. He asked for an opinion. I gave it. Would you rather I just go along with the more popular "too cool" and "awesome" stuff? Talk about close minded...

 

[sorce]

yeah, because I don't like something means my mind is closed. He asked for an opinion. I gave it. Would you rather I just go along with the more popular "too cool" and "awesome" stuff? Talk about close minded...

He was being sincere! Not sarcastic.


Sorce

 

[Stickroot]

He was being sincere! Not sarcastic.


Sorce

Thank you @sorce
Honestly that was sincere, as these pots are not traditional and most striving for traditional bonsai, It seems like more are open to it than not.
I hope everyone has a wonderful day today.

 

[rockm]

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He was being sincere! Not sarcastic.


Sorce

If that's the case, I apologize. tone is a hard thing to measure on the Internet.

 

[A Random User]

I like the pots. Had planned on making some for a while. For centuries, metal pots have been used in Penjing by the Chinese. Although, these were usually constructed of bronze or brass. So, it is not obviously out of the realm for their use in bonsai.

 

[Vin]

For the record, I was offered a substantial sum of money for the oval one already, not that money is any sort of measure of viability or acceptance but it does at least add some sort of validity to the concept moving forward. BTW, they are not for sale. Also, every comment, be it critical or complementary is appreciated and wanted. I realize they are not going to be for everyone and I'm perfectly okay with that but I do plan on responding to the objections as well as the descriptive complements. I will not be insulted unless you talk about my mother.

 

[Vin]

I like the pots. Had planned on making some for a while. For centuries, metal pots have been used in Penjing by the Chinese. Although, these were usually constructed of bronze or brass. So, it is not obviously out of the realm for their use in bonsai.

Thanks for the comment. I actually started thinking about metal pots when I came across an antique bronze Chinese one on eBay a couple years back.

 

[Walter Pall]

I once had an iron pot which looked quite cool. But it was very heavy and would rust. Well, the rust could be seen as an advantage, as patina. But the major obstacle for usage as an actual bonsai container was the heating up of soil in the sun. This container would have to be protected full from sun hitting it. otherwise it would become really hot and the roots would be baked. So now the container is exhibited in the German Dusseldorf Bonsai Museum as exceptional container in the pot departmen

 

[Vin]

Isn't Florida like a crotch?
Salty and humid.

Is this thing powder yet?

Plus one for powder coat.
But not a stainless one.

The other "wait there's more" is steel too?

The tree that belongs in there is any tree you wish to add a very natural lightning feature to.

Seriously.....
I want to say the only way they can "work", is with a design on the front to match a specific tree feature....

But.....
I really think you fellers just have way too much time on your hands.

Don't rub your nuts on this one!
Sock or not!

It's still an amazing piece of work.

Perhaps a hood ornament for the Ranchero?
Lol...

A dope stainless bonsai would look badass.

Sorce

Lol. You and I will not live to see them turn to powder, I'm sure of that. As for the Ranchero, maybe a SS tree will work as a hood ornament? The possibilities are endless..

 

[Stickroot]

The stainless use for these potss is the same that Kraft uses in there cheese vatts and tanks, I have never seen it rust, highest nickle content out there.

 

[Vin]

I once had an iron pot which looked quite cool. But it was very heavy and would rust. Well, the rust could be seen as an advantage, as patina. But the major obstacle for usage as an actual bonsai container was the heating up of soil in the sun. This container would have to be protected full from sun hitting it. otherwise it would become really hot and the roots would be baked. So now the container is exhibited in the German Dusseldorf Bonsai Museum as exceptional container in the pot departmen

It is indeed an exceptional container! Being a Crescent Pot I can see where the heating up of the pot would be a concern. My thoughts along with others that have seen the pots in person is to use a tree with a large canopy or one that thrives in partial shade if heat becomes an issue. I have an infrared laser thermometer that I plan on using to monitor the pot temperature. I know it's only May but there hasn't been any issues yet. July and August will be the real test. Your insight is appreciated.

 

[GrimLore]

I have an infrared laser thermometer that I plan on using to monitor the pot temperature. I know it's only May but there hasn't been any issues yet. July and August will be the real test. Your insight is appreciated.

I like both and got to thinking about the heat "if" it becomes an issue. My first thought is that overheating if it occurs at all would be for a short period no longer then two months. I would find someone or a shop with a vacuum molding machine and have heavy plastic inserts molded to the exact inner shape of the pot complete with the drain holes. If it becomes a problem and you wire the tree in through the liner and then out of the pot you could simply untwist it and remove the liner plant and all for a few weeks and reinsert easily for the rest of the year...

Grimmy

 

[Vin]

I like both and got to thinking about the heat "if" it becomes an issue. My first thought is that overheating if it occurs at all would be for a short period no longer then two months. I would find someone or a shop with a vacuum molding machine and have heavy plastic inserts molded to the exact inner shape of the pot complete with the drain holes. If it becomes a problem and you wire the tree in through the liner and then out of the pot you could simply untwist it and remove the liner plant and all for a few weeks and reinsert easily for the rest of the year...

Grimmy

Good idea! I hadn't even thought of that.