Advice to add trunk movement to this Juniper

[chicago1980]

I have a new Juniper in my small collection and want to add movement to the trunk over time. I have seen this done in person over time with wood and pipes, but have never done so myself house. Any advice, videos, or online articles would be appreciated.

Any style advice would be appreciated in general. I have been reviewing books, magazines and online photos for similar split trunk junipers for inspiration.

Thank you everyone.

 

[vaibatron]

The trunk already has some decent movement. From the pictures it seems The foliage is compact enough For an all-out wiring session.

FWIW, a gnarly twisted trunk does not look like it's in the cards for this one. If it were my tree I would try to accentuate the graceful curves in the trunk with strong movement in the main, secondary, and tertiary branches.

I sometimes have trouble with imposing my will on a tree,trying to make it something it doesn't wAnt to be.. It seems that may be the case here.

Just my two cents..

 

[JoeR]

I would consider airlayering the smaller trunk and turning it into a short jin and shari below. It would create more taper too.


Maybe like this? Airlayer at red, green would be a possible rough silhouette?


Or do same thing with the first pic.

 

[chicago1980]

The trunk already has some decent movement. From the pictures it seems The foliage is compact enough For an all-out wiring session.

FWIW, a gnarly twisted trunk does not look like it's in the cards for this one. If it were my tree I would try to accentuate the graceful curves in the trunk with strong movement in the main, secondary, and tertiary branches.

I sometimes have trouble with imposing my will on a tree,trying to make it something it doesn't wAnt to be.. It seems that may be the case here.

Just my two cents..

I was thinking more separation of the trunk to accentuate its current movement? Not creating twist so much. I guess in a way more of a feminine approach if that wording makes sense. Thanks for the advice.

 

[Paradox]

This trunk already has very nice movement. Just needs to develop some foliage closer to the trunk.

 

[chicago1980]

I would consider airlayering the smaller trunk and turning it into a short jin and shari below. It would create more taper too.


Maybe like this? Airlayer at red, green would be a possible rough silhouette?
View attachment 87487

Or do same thing with the first pic.

I had a similar idea about jin and Shari, and placement of supporting branch strucutre. Thank you.

 

[chicago1980]

This trunk already has very nice movement. Just needs to develop some foliage closer to the trunk.

Thank you and yes compacting foliage is also a priority.

 

[sorce]

In 2D. I would ask my 4 year old which trunk to cut....and just do it.

Cuz I'm pretty sure one of them has to go.

In 3D. I think you could make a better decision!

The last pic is definitely the front for me. If using the front trunk.

And the second to last looks almost as good for using the left trunk there.....but it may not work, because it would be leaning so far away.

I would just keep light in there to get some buds going inside while you ponder it. Looks like one to ponder!

I like it!

Sorce

 

[chicago1980]

In 2D. I would ask my 4 year old which trunk to cut....and just do it.

Cuz I'm pretty sure one of them has to go.

In 3D. I think you could make a better decision!

The last pic is definitely the front for me. If using the front trunk.

And the second to last looks almost as good for using the left trunk there.....but it may not work, because it would be leaning so far away.

I would just keep light in there to get some buds going inside while you ponder it. Looks like one to ponder!

I like it!

Sorce

Sorce do you visit Garfield park group or the Botanic Garden group?

 

[sorce]

Sorce do you visit Garfield park group or the Botanic Garden group?

No. But I've read about them, You?

I don't have much time. But I think it would be cool to get together some local Nuts! There, or elsewhere!

Sorce

 

[thumblessprimate1]

I think it's a nice tree. It's something I'd take to a workshop and have somebody like Owen Reich or Bjorn put his eyes and hands on it. I pictures a tall, slender, and majestic juniper.

 

[chicago1980]

I think it's a nice tree. It's something I'd take to a workshop and have somebody like Owen Reich or Bjorn put his eyes and hands on it. I pictures a tall, slender, and majestic juniper.

Excellent idea!

 

[chicago1980]

No. But I've read about them, You?

I don't have much time. But I think it would be cool to get together some local Nuts! There, or elsewhere!

Sorce

A couple times now. A solid group if people with a lot of knowledge. Meetings start again in February I believe. Mauro live was great last month.

 

[sorce]

Mmmmm(puffs pipe again!)
Very intriguing!

Thanks!

Sorce

 

[chicago1980]

Mmmmm(puffs pipe again!)
Very intriguing!

Thanks!

Sorce

Hahahaha pipe smoking

 

[M. Frary]

Hahahaha pipe smoking

Oh yeah! He's a regular Gandalf.

 

[GrimLore]

I have a new Juniper in my small collection and want to add movement to the trunk over time.

You said "over time" so I am guessing you want the new growth to follow the current nice flow it has already... That could be accomplished neatly and effectively with guy/guide wires. What type of Juniper was that sold as?

Grimmy

 

[chicago1980]

You said "over time" so I am guessing you want the new growth to follow the current nice flow it has already... That could be accomplished neatly and effectively with guy/guide wires. What type of Juniper was that sold as?

Grimmy

John Kirby Itoigawa Juinper 20 years old. Yes "Over time" as I am absolutely fine with slowly growing the tree with Guy wire techiniques. The trunk is 2' at the moment so no rush as I am just a hobbyist with a backyard and time. I added a close up photo of the foliage if you would like to give you opinion on the species. I have not taken it to my local Bonsai Club yet to discuss the tree.

 

[GrimLore]

I added a close up photo of the foliage if you would like to give you opinion on the species.

The foliage definitely looks Itoigawa. The name John Kirby suggests to me that it is probably a San Jose with a lot of Itoigawa grafts. He did that a lot and has developed some really nice plants. Good find!

Grimmy

 

[chicago1980]

The foliage definitely looks Itoigawa. The name John Kirby suggests to me that it is probably a San Jose with a lot of Itoigawa grafts. He did that a lot and has developed some really nice plants. Good find!

Grimmy

Thank you Grimmy.