Yea understandable, mainly was wondering on dry maple old seed where it's said to stratify for 90 - 120 warm 90 - 120 cold stratification. Figured on looking at odd posts on passiflora that can take up to 1 to 2 years stratification they have recommended Ga3 that then can alter them to sprout as early as 1 to 3 months. So wondered if worked for some species how may work on long stratification maple dry old seed ect . Not that I'd use it, just curious. But thanks for at least shooting a comment.
Np ,it's definitely used in seeds . Lots ive seen on Google. You are indeed correct too much can Inhabit, whereas too little does nothing. But it's definitely been used on some species but I wasn't sure if anyone's tried on maple seeds given longer stratification times when they are old and dry .
Yea that was my thoughts . I've seen in my fb passiflora group people doing it on the seeds to break down and speed up germination and lessen stratification requirements and read a bit on other random Google places other species. My thoughts were that if had starting place if anyone has tried or had thoughts to how much, it may lessen and speed up the 120 warm 120 cold stratification on dry older Japanese maple seeds versus how fresh can be germinated so much easier and faster. Worst case I could buy a few packets more on side and experiment. The main seed packets I bought I wont given they won't honor if any don't grow unless they are grown as instructed . But figured for information and interest had hoped might know if anyone's tried. I have definitely heard also as above was posted to much can cause backlash and to little does jack all nothing . . Either way I'm grateful to anyone responding since it's all about learning in bonsai and groups and thats always great good or bad .
Yea that was my concern also is causing the seeds if are viable to malfunction or cause at worst zero germination. I was able pick up some 2023 Japanese maple seeds off sheffields. The rest I have are 2007 to 2019 and I plan on doing there recommendations on 90 to 120 warm stratification then 90 to 120 cold stratification. I also got few from another unknown source from friend offline feom online source and they said enjoy so thought to see if anyone's experienced Japanese maple dry seeds with Ga3 only . Other chemicals I avoid since idk a thing about them even more so and like you mentioned can be extremely volatile or dangerous. My household is pretty much zero chemical space ive been this way for Last 22 years and the wildlife (native toads , tree frogs (Grey's Coop's, and green tree frogs )have rebounded on my property versus when I moved in were none . Now every year there are hundreds to thousands born yearly which is awesome indicator of lands health . Sadly natice honey bee's are gone but bumble bees are so many so I worry other near properties might be using sprays killing off the bees or maybe another issue
(sorry ik extra tmi maybe) just been doing alot research on basic stratifications warm and cold and seen a few ways vary slightly. Hoping to have success naturally but was a thought for fun and just out of interest to ask on Ga3 thoughts. Mainly seeing 1 to 2 yr stratification sped up to 2 to 3 months was wild . Though like you mentioned might not be worth it if makes them dead or inert or damages the plant embryos. Can't thank everyone enough as this site has so much great information and so many different views on alot of things so never boring or anything . So much great reading and photos tooAwesome about the frogs man! I grew up loving the local amphibians and some very enthusiastic government projects wiped out two species of salamanders, three species of frogs, one species of newt and brought down biodiversity from 200+ species of plants to 4.Yea that was my concern also is causing the seeds if are viable to malfunction or cause at worst zero germination. I was able pick up some 2023 Japanese maple seeds off sheffields. The rest I have are 2007 to 2019 and I plan on doing there recommendations on 90 to 120 warm stratification then 90 to 120 cold stratification. I also got few from another unknown source from friend offline feom online source and they said enjoy so thought to see if anyone's experienced Japanese maple dry seeds with Ga3 only . Other chemicals I avoid since idk a thing about them even more so and like you mentioned can be extremely volatile or dangerous. My household is pretty much zero chemical space ive been this way for Last 22 years and the wildlife (native toads , tree frogs (Grey's Coop's, and green tree frogs )have rebounded on my property versus when I moved in were none . Now every year there are hundreds to thousands born yearly which is awesome indicator of lands health . Sadly natice honey bee's are gone but bumble bees are so many so I worry other near properties might be using sprays killing off the bees or maybe another issue
And keep you posted . Super great info and ideas thanks truly . I figure worst case if able get 1 tree per packet ill be happy if able sprout even 5 to 10% (some have said with dry Japanese maple seed/sheffields says they are 80 to 90% cut germination checked) we shall see. Very excited to try and see how things go. Love our forums group .
That's why I was thinking Ga3 sorta on some of them to see . Ofc majority I'd not do since thier guarantee is only if done as they recommend so was thinking of the extra seeds from another place to try Ga3 or something else . Since older dry Japanese maple seeds apparently take lots longer to stratify. Ive not heard about rescuing seed via there external coatings . Ill have check some things or see what everyone thinks .
good idea if it's a viable option. Just hadn't head of it before though doesn't mean it isn't a thing. Very good question though. @Bonsai Nut @19Mateo83 @Wires_Guy_wires any thoughts guise sorry btw if tagging is improper or frowned upon if so let me know I won't do anymore promise
I soak all my seeds in about a 1 to 1.5% peroxide prior to stratification or sowing.
