James W. Azalea 2020-2025 Contest Entry

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Looks like a great azalea to start with and to learn on to me!

No tags? Likely with data on the time it blooms next year and what the flowers look like, you’ll get a much better idea about its variety. 😉

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Looks like a great azalea to start with and to learn on to me!

No tags? . . .
It is one of four labeled "Gumpo White" but this one is different. Bigger, fuzzier, darker green leaves and more upright growth.
 

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Good observation. It looks leggy for a slow growing Gumpo to me.

Two possibilities..., Either diversity in genetics at work, or diversity in placement of nursery tags!

Either way it’s on with the show. We'll know more in 10 months .

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Welcome to the contest! Be sure to post progression pics as you move forward.
 

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@bunjin I read your replies to olddirt's contest entry. What time of year should I wire the whip I have here? It feels pretty brittle to me, would it help to wrap it before bending?
 

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  1. Yes, it will help. You can use raffia or plastic tie wrap, or even cording. One of our club members came up with the idea to use cording(I use manila) which works well for thicker trunks. I attach a photo of an exhibit I made to show all three methods and also my class demo plant w/o any wrapping. The bends on thicker whips cannot be as tight, of course. Also per Naka's book, using 2 or 3 wires reduces the chances of breaking the whip.
  2. I would wire it as soon as possible because it is only getting thicker and this is the period when it is adding girth / will take a set.
  3. Also letting the azalea dry out short of wilting before you do the wiring will make the trunk more pliable.
  4. Taking off the wires as soon as possible after the whip is set is critical to prevent scars that never really disappear BTW, and wrapping allows more tolerance in the timeliness of the removal.fullsizeoutput_38c.jpeg20200720_092258.jpg
 

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P.S. Cannot tell for sure, but your azalea has the possibility of doing a twin or triple trunk
 

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Trimmed and wrapped:
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I used 3 layers of grafting tape to wrap the trunk. Something stronger would have worked better.

Wired:
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I thought I was being clever and providing wider support by separating the two wires around the trunk. I think it would have been better to lay the two wires next to each other as is usual.

Bent:
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Looking now, more gentler bends might have looked better. And less risky.
 

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Good job! I like your effort. Next time you might consider starting lower, with continuous double or triple wire with wires placed side by side. Its recommended in Bonsai Techniques for Satsuki. Naka et al.
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I like the movement you created, James. Electrical tape for wrapping is a new one for me. I will try it soon. Not sure it will be easy to remove as it is really tenacious when used for its intended purpose.
 

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Not sure it will be easy to remove as it is really tenacious when used for its intended purpose.
Yeah don't go that way. As I said above, the first layer should be put on with the glue away from the bark....bit of a schlep, but you'll get the hang of it quickly. The second layer is wrapped onto the glue side. The two pieces of tape can be stuck together before hand and wrapped that way. I however choose to put them on seperately. That way I can get some stretch from the tape to fit the branch snuggly.
Best to use short pieces of tape so it don't stick to everything that easy.
 

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Electrical tape sticks to itself real well and has to be cut off in a year. Kind of a PITA.
Next time I might use duck tape or athletic tape or 1st aid tape. Something not very stretchy and cloth based. I have used duck tape on trees before and it breaks down and lets go after a year or so in the sun and the weather.
 

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I made some measurements and electrical tape is about .0065"thick, garden wrap tape is .004" or .008", pin striping tape is .005"and grafting tape is listed at .004"(not meas.)- many types of grafting tape are out there. I am looking for some jute twine thinner than 3 mm as it gives really good protection and is super easy to remove. Azaleas take a set very quickly during the growth season. If the wires are on for a year, most of the time that is way too long. Given a choice, I also think it is better to to use something that is permeable.
 

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I made some measurements and electrical tape is about .0065"thick, garden wrap tape is .004" or .008", pin striping tape is .005"and grafting tape is listed at .004"(not meas.)- many types of grafting tape are out there. I am looking for some jute twine thinner than 3 mm as it gives really good protection and is super easy to remove. Azaleas take a set very quickly during the growth season. If the wires are on for a year, most of the time that is way too long. Given a choice, I also think it is better to to use something that is permeable.
And maybe something thicker would act like some padding to prevent wire scars?
Cotton twine might work, too.
 

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Hmm- butcher's twine measures at about 2mm - good suggestion.
 

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Trimmed and wrapped:
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I used 3 layers of grafting tape to wrap the trunk. Something stronger would have worked better.

Wired:
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I thought I was being clever and providing wider support by separating the two wires around the trunk. I think it would have been better to lay the two wires next to each other as is usual.

Bent:
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Looking now, more gentler bends might have looked better. And less risky.
Shape looks good. However I would like to note that with you wrapping the entire trunk, you are limiting yourself for new buds to emerge at strategic locations. Unless of course you don't need new buds anywhere else on the trunk.

Also I find two smaller wires wired in parallel works better than one large wire. You have more control when you are bending.
 

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And maybe something thicker would act like some padding to prevent wire scars?
Cotton twine might work, too.
If you are concerned about wire scars........you are not giving your trees enough attention. Some say wrapping the wire will reduce scarring, but the only real way is to look at your trees. You can use the paper tape that is found in the floral section for fake flowers at any hobby shop. You can find both green and brown.

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