Anyone every do this? For example, can I take a plain JM and just graft all new branches from a more desired cultivar? Does this turn into a constant fight between new plain JM shoots and the grafted cultivar?
Replacing Shoots With Different Cultivar
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Srt8madness
Omono
What would the purpose be? Faster trunk development?
I suspect you are right in that the dominate green maple would favor throwing its own shoots over pushing the cultivar
I suspect you are right in that the dominate green maple would favor throwing its own shoots over pushing the cultivar
Basically so I could start with a trunk that is further along. I'm assuming it would be cheaper to start with a plain JM.
Gabler
Masterpiece
If it worked, I would expect to see it done more often. It's not uncommon for junipers, but I've never heard it done for maples, and I'm guessing there's a good reason why.
rockm
Spuds Moyogi
It's done in Japan with pines--a "change of robes" is the term used, from thing's Ive read and heard. It's done mainly with conifers, as they are reluctant to backbud on old wood, which means there isn't a constant battle to keep the newly grafted limbs from being overtaken by the tree's original growth. All bets are off with deciduous species as they readily push new growth from everywhere, making it a constant struggle to contain them vs allowing the grafted limbs/shoots to strengthen and grow. Not worth the effort really.
WNC Bonsai
Omono
It’s done a lot with fruit trees—you can buy trees that produce a different type of apple for example on each branch so don’t see why it could not be done with maples. As @rockm said you will need to remove stump sprouts from the old tree or they will replace the new grafted branches. This too is a common problem with nursery trees. I have a witch hazel that is constantly putting out new sprouts from the original stem.
SeanS
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Yes it’s possible and fairly common in Japan.
I’ll be thread grafting deshojo rooted cuttings onto a green JM ROR next spring.
I’ll be thread grafting deshojo rooted cuttings onto a green JM ROR next spring.
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Shohin
Andrea Merrigioli just did a demo of it at NEBG
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RKatzin
Omono
Many Japanese maples are grafted and many are shunned as bonsai subjects primarily, not because of the graft scar, but because of the difference in the bark color and texture between the cultivar and the host maple. This can be remedied by ground layering the base above the graft or taking cuttings or airlayers.Your trunk will be one color and all your grafted branches will be another all the way up the tree. If that's what you want it's easy enough to do.
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Mame
As mentioned above it is possible and very common with Japanese Maples.
Here are a few photos from my recent trip to Japan
Here are a few photos from my recent trip to Japan
