Pinus Rigida (Pitch Pine) #52

[Orion_metalhead]

Started from Seed collected in Sam's Point, NY area from a scrubby parent two years ago. Currently growing well.

Planted in what is probably an old ceramic cookware which I drilled a hole in. I liked the color though.


Strong candle growth this year:


Top down... will wire again after growth hardens:

 

[Deep Sea Diver]

Nice!
... and I like the pot drilling so you to use that pot.
I've been doing a lot of that on multiple pots in the past two months. Drilled one of the wife's tart ceramic pots to boot. Luckily, she just laughed!
cheers
DSD sends

 

[Orion_metalhead]

Not sure what is happening with this guy. I think its root related but I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to slip pot it right now or not. It is root bound... it looks like there are some buds for next year on the inside base of the tree, but I dont know if it will live through winter.

Thoughts?

 

[Potawatomi13]

Unless growing in mud believe is heat related. Does not look good but would still see if revival in Spring happens. Repotting seems bad idea but would see to dampness of substrate. Not wet, not dry.

 

[Wires_Guy_wires]

Damn, sorry man. That doesn't look good.
I've had one pine looking like this that bounced back. All the others have died.
In my case it was almost certainly standing water / overwatering. Heat could have been an issue too, but since my pots were painted white and it affected mostly JBP (know to withstand some heat) I thought it was probably just rotting roots from prolonged wetness.
Switched to a drier soil and it never happened again. Which makes a strong case for overwatering.

 

[discusmike]

Pine is dead

 

[Orion_metalhead]

Damn, sorry man. That doesn't look good.
I've had one pine looking like this that bounced back. All the others have died.
In my case it was almost certainly standing water / overwatering. Heat could have been an issue too, but since my pots were painted white and it affected mostly JBP (know to withstand some heat) I thought it was probably just rotting roots from prolonged wetness.
Switched to a drier soil and it never happened again. Which makes a strong case for overwatering.

So do you think it's worth trying to slip pot it?

 

[PA_Penjing]

Pine is definitely dead. And I don’t mean to add insult to injury one bit, I’m trying to help. The candle growth you called “strong” in may looks pretty weak to me. I can’t say for sure what the problem was, but I’d try getting these pines into much more open soil moving forward. Especially if the others are weaker than this one

 

[BrightsideB]

Sorry to hear about your tree. I would think it was the soil as well.

 

[Eckhoffw]

Sorry man. I’d imagine that the pot is glazed inside as well - Not saying that was the culprit but probably didn’t help any with extra water in the dish.

 

[BrightsideB]

I’ve put trees that I’ve been developing in the ground once they start declining. I’ve saved two that way. Have lost all the others though.

 

[Orion_metalhead]

Thanks all. And no reason to be sorry for me. This is my fault. I have a good grasp with the deciduous trees mostly, but pines are still not my forte so I expect to lose some as I learn. These seedlings arent a huge deal.. I have a bunch. I'll try throwing it into the garden or something... maybe it will pull through.

Definitely need to get a different soil for my pines for next year.

 

[Wires_Guy_wires]

So do you think it's worth trying to slip pot it?

I don't know a whole lot about rigida. So I can't tell for sure. But since they can bud from bare old wood, and it's as good as gone anyways, I think it can't do much more harm.

 

[Potawatomi13]

Definitely need to get a different soil for my pines for next year.

Pumice!

 

[JTrips]

So sorry, it had a stellar start too. I have a few Table Mountain pine (close relation) yearlings that look the same. I suspect drainage. Most look fine but...such is life. I'm going to repot in a more gravely mix in spring. I have an air-layer Pitch that I took last year and put it in a mostly perlite/NZ spaghum mix mid summer. The root system was never vibrant but it held through the winter. This year it grew a little but never really greened up until I put it in a screen bottom box with an akadama/perlite/bark/compost mix. It greened right up.