Tree too big?

[apexmusic420]

So I got this pine from New mexico on vacation. Just wondering if it's too big, don't want to stress it out more by pruning it so it doesn't tip over ive tried with wire and failed lol, I attempted to wire again and then propped it up with bamboo. Please help!

 

[Hartinez]

This tree was recently dug? When you say too big do you mean too tall/long?

 

[apexmusic420]

This tree was recently dug? When you say too big do you mean too tall/long?

Yeah I dug it up 2 days ago up in ruidoso, it keeps wanting to fall over, should I put it in a different. Pot?

 

[NeedlesAndLeaves]

To me a tree is not to big as you can use that to do many things with it.

Make sure when you pot it that it is well secured in its pot with wires. So that the tree and roots don’t move in the pot.
The bamboo stick makes me feel that it is not.

The tilting of the tree with the pot you have taken care of. Just wire the pot down.

The soil seems a bit to dense and water retaining for the tree.

As you just potted it up and the roots are not settled you might want to take it out and put it in a more free draining substrate.

As for the tree, I like it

 

[NeedlesAndLeaves]

To me a tree is not to big as you can use that to do many things with it.

Make sure when you pot it that it is well secured in its pot with wires. So that the tree and roots don’t move in the pot.
The bamboo stick makes me feel that it is not.

The tilting of the tree with the pot you have taken care of. Just wire the pot down.

The soil seems a bit to dense and water retaining for the tree.

As you just potted it up and the roots are not settled you might want to take it out and put it in a more free draining substrate.

As for the tree, I like it

I see that I misread and you did wire it down but failed to keep it as wanted.
Ugly wires from the tree to the edge of the pot is a good solution to me.
Sticks and strongbeams dont look that pretty but can work well.

 

[BrianBay9]

Not the best time to collect a tree. Prop it up against your fence. Leave it alone and see if it lives before you start making plans. Better draining soil would be good. Keep it out of direct sun and mist it as often as you can. If it's alive next year you're doing good. Even then, wait until it's growing strongly before you start working on it.

 

[apexmusic420]

Ok so I repotted into lava pumice akadama mix, rewired (the right way) got a little more structure this time but I still propped it because I felt like it was putting a bunch on tension on the roots on that side. Any more advice is welcome as I am a noob. And yes, I know I collected at the wrong time. I just couldn't leave this tree behind.

 

[apexmusic420]

Here are the roots...

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Don’t get too attached…

 

[NeedlesAndLeaves]

Here are the roots...

The substrate looks much better

I see you have bare rooted your pine. These pine rootsystems are working hand in hand with Mycorrhiza. White stuff..
Bare rooting will wash this import matter away.
Nothing to be done about it now, but keep it in mind for next times

 

[rockm]

Don’t get too attached…

What he said. If you see foliage turning reddish or turning brown in the coming week or two or three, things probably aren't going to work out. Reddish foliage means extreme shock...Pines are not as resilient as deciduous with their roots.

 

[apexmusic420]

The substrate looks much better

I see you have bare rooted your pine. These pine rootsystems are working hand in hand with Mycorrhiza. White stuff..
Bare rooting will wash this import matter away.
Nothing to be done about it now, but keep it in mind for next times

I tried to keep the root ball intact as possible but the soil there on the side of that hill was very crumbly, so everything kinda just fell out.

 

[apexmusic420]

Chance of survival out of 10?

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Chance of survival out of 10?

1/10

 

[Hartinez]

id say your chances are closer to 0 than 1.

reasons why.

out of season to collect
no intact rootball, meaning these pines almost always require an intact ball of clay/roots
the mud, soil, or whatever its in will only strangulate whatever roots were going to survive

edit. I see the repot to better soil. too little too later unfortunately. Next time you go to collect these pine, shoot me a message and I can give you my best practices. In the last 4 years ive had near 100% success collecting piñon.

 

[Hartinez]

piñon are notoriously difficult to collect. But with the right conditions, timing and aftercare can be vigorous trees in pots.

 

[apexmusic420]

id say your chances are closer to 0 than 1.

reasons why.

out of season to collect
no intact rootball, meaning these pines almost always require an intact ball of clay/roots
the mud, soil, or whatever its in will only strangulate whatever roots were going to survive

edit. I see the repot to better soil. too little too later unfortunately. Next time you go to collect these pine, shoot me a message and I can give you my best practices. In the last 4 years ive had near 100% success collecting piñon.

10-4 damn..... was so excited....

 

[Nybonsai12]

I’ve seen your soil before. That was the stuff in the swamp of sadness, it killed atreyus horse.

 

[Hartinez]

I’ve seen your soil before. That was the stuff in the swamp of sadness, it killed atreyus horse.

You’re rehashing some serious childhood traumas for many of us. Lol.

 

[leatherback]

If it is worth collecting, it is worth the effort to come back at the right time with the right tools.
Now it was just an impulse collect which rarely is a good idea.